I concur with John and Chris, macOS 10.13 was end of life 12/2020 with no
more security patches and the latest macOS 10.14.6 security patch contains
the Swift 5 runtime library.
Yesterday we merged a note on the download page indicating that macOS prior
to 10.14.4 needs the Swift 5 runtime installed.

--Christian

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 5:02 AM Luff,Chris <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I would argue that we note the Swift dependency on the downloads section,
> as you suggest John, and encourage users to get current or use the binary.
> I appreciate some have really great reasons for holding onto older
> versions, but WWDC is only 3 months away and that usually heralds a new
> version, likely 12.0.
>
> Chris
>
>
> > On 24 Mar 2021, at 08:34, John Mc <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry note in the downloads page to either use the binary or install
> Swift
> > 5...
> >
> > On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 at 08:33, John Mc <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Is there a need to fix this issue?
> >>
> >> I'd assume most users, probably are using Catalina or BigSur(I'm still
> >> avoiding that upgrade) - could we provide a note in the download
> section to
> >> say users still in Mojave, should look at using the binary?  It seems
> that
> >> every year Apple mark another release as no longer supported, next up is
> >> Mojave and that could be anywhere in Q3 or Q4 this year...
> >>
> >> For the numbers of people that might be affected, is it worth providing
> a
> >> workaround in 12.4? - I wouldn't even know where to begin here...
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 at 15:50, Christian Oyarzun <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> It looks like the Swift5 runtime libraries need to be installed for
> macOS
> >>> prior to 10.14.4.
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>> What would be the best way to deal with this, in terms of licensing?
> Have
> >>> the installer check and provide a download?
> >>>
> >>> --Christian
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:14 AM Neil C Smith <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 at 15:07, Geertjan Wielenga
> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fair enough.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've added links to the GitHub PRs to the JIRA issue, and linked the
> >>>> original related issue.
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>> We potentially need a better way of testing installers before
> >>>> release?!  The 12.4 change will limit the use of Swift by using the
> >>>> standard launcher script - interesting to see if the problem remains
> >>>> then.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best wishes,
> >>>>
> >>>> Neil
> >>>>
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