Did you say we are all Spartacus? Or was that NetCAT? ;~}

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From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 9:13:42 AM
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org <dev@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: OpenJDK Quality Outreach

All of us, everyone. We are all NetCAT.

Gj

On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 at 15:11, Kenneth Fogel <kfo...@dawsoncollege.qc.ca>
wrote:

> Yes, NetCAT is the best tool for determining functionality under a JDK.
> Who should I communicate with concerning NetCAT?
>
> Ken
>
> ________________________________
> From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:36:21 AM
> To: dev <dev@netbeans.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: OpenJDK Quality Outreach
>
> Great progress, thank you, Ken.
>
> Maybe this is where NetCAT can come into the picture.
>
> Gj
>
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 2:34 PM Kenneth Fogel <kfo...@dawsoncollege.qc.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have learned that while we were listed on the OpenJDK Quality Outreach
> > wiki page, we never received any correspondence because thee was
> > uncertainty over who was the point of contact. This despite the fact that
> > Geertjan appears as the point of contact in the wiki.
> >
> > I have asked Rory to replace Geertjan with me. I have asked him to better
> > describe how they want reporting and what their colour coding means. To
> me
> > the wiki just lists projects that are actively testing against JDKs,
> doing
> > some testing, and no one is sure if testing is going on. The colour
> coding
> > is not about whether it works.
> >
> > What I think the wiki wants from us is that we can show that we are
> > actively testing which versions NetBeans will compile under a specific
> JDK
> > and that it functions under that JDK. Once I get more clarification I
> share
> > it with the list.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Jaroslav Tulach <jaroslav.tul...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 3:52:43 AM
> > To: dev@netbeans.apache.org <dev@netbeans.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: OpenJDK Quality Outreach
> >
> > > Yes, we should, how?
> >
> > I'd like to point out that Geertjan is listed on the wiki page https://
> > wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/quality/Quality+Outreach
> >
> > > Apache Netbeans       Geertjan Wielenga
> > >  Use OpenJDK 12 EA b26 Phase 2 or higher and OpenJDK 11.0.2
> >
> > as an Apache NetBeans contact providing feedback since JDK11!
> >
> > Given Geertjan isn't even aware of being part of the OpenJDK Quality
> > Outreach
> > program, we can estimate the importance of the program. However having
> > Ken as
> > an official NetBeans representative is certainly better, than not being
> > there at
> > all.
> >
> > Ken:
> > >  I suspect we might have caught the JEP 411 issue much sooner
> > >  if we participated in this.
> >
> > No we wouldn't caught it sooner. NetBeans blogging and social media
> > campaign
> > started the same week as JEP 411 was published. Participation in any
> public
> > forum couldn't speed the reaction up.
> >
> > Eirik:
> > > Here are a couple of Windows LAF bugs that could be mentioned as
> > impacting
> > > NetBeans (as well as most other Swing applications):
> > >
> > > https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8211715
> > > https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8241561
> > >
> > > I added workarounds for these ..., but there are still cases where a
> > proper
> > > fix at the OpenJDK level would look better.
> >
> > Well, create a PR for OpenJDK then!
> >
> > Overall I doubt participation in OpenJDK Quality Outreach forum can
> > dramatically improve anything. Direct action is what counts: be it buzz
> > over
> > JEP-411 or submitting PRs for OpenJDK to make NetBeans work better (like
> > https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/pull/3939). Anyway having a channel to
> > talk to
> > OpenJDK is better for Apache NetBeans, than not having it.
> >
> > Good luck, Ken! Don't forget to update the wiki.
> > -jt
> >
> >
> >
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