On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu> wrote:

> Please add wording that users migrating to the users@ or dev@ list should
> *subscribe* to those lists by sending an empty email to
> users-subscr...@netbeans.apache.org or dev-subscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> otherwise we (moderators) will get swamped...
>


Good point, thanks.



> Maybe also helpful to remark that you can anonymously browse the mail
> archives via https://lists.apache.org/list.html?us...@netbeans.apache.org
> and https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@netbeans.apache.org
>
> All this typically is/should be documented already on the website, but
> as we don't have any real (ASF) content yet at netbeans.apache.org new
> users easily will get lost.
>


Yup. In the meantime, and in addition, this is also listed here:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate

Gj



>
> I think the website really needs to get priority attention, also because
> otherwise there is no place to communicate and provide the download
> links for the current HTML/Java API and upcoming platform releases...
>
> Ate
>
> On 2017-11-23 12:06, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We should, at some stage, put an end to the various netbeans.org mailing
>> lists, e.g., nbus...@netbeans.org and the dozen or so other netbeans.org
>> mailing lists and ensure that everyone asks questions about NetBeans on
>> the
>> Apache NetBeans mailing lists instead. Jiri Kovalsky and I, who have
>> managed the NetBeans.org mailing lists over the years, propose we send the
>> following to ALL the netbeans.org mailing lists at the beginning of next
>> week.
>>
>> Subject for the mail: “January 1st, 2018: End of @netbeans.org Mailing
>>
>>> Lists and Forum"
>>>
>>> Text:
>>>
>>> “If you’ve been following Oracle's Apache NetBeans donation process,
>>> you’ll be aware that a large part of NetBeans is in Apache Git already.
>>> You
>>> should also be aware that mailing lists are available at Apache for
>>> purposes of discussing the development and usage of Apache NetBeans.
>>>
>>> By means of this e-mail, we’re letting you know that as of January 1st,
>>> 2018, the @netbeans.org mailing lists will be deleted (they are archived
>>> at netbeans.markmail.org), all references to @netbeans.org will, where
>>> possible, be replaced with references to Apache NetBeans mailing lists,
>>> and
>>> everyone will need to manually move to the Apache NetBeans @dev (
>>> dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org) and Apache NetBeans @user (
>>> us...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org) mailing lists.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone asking questions about the usage of NetBeans, whether for Java,
>>> JavaScript, C/C++, or any other language or technology, as well as those
>>> using the NetBeans APIs for developing modules and applications, will use
>>> the Apache NetBeans @user mailing list. If and when it turns out that too
>>> many developers of one category dominate the @user mailing list, a
>>> separate
>>> Apache NetBeans mailing list will be created for them. The Apache
>>> NetBeans
>>> @dev mailing list is specifically for those committed to working on the
>>> development of Apache NetBeans itself, as well as those committed to
>>> promoting and documenting it, via events and tutorials, etc.
>>>
>>> Note that we will be discontinuing the web forums, i.e.,
>>> forums.netbeans.org, and that in Apache there is no replacement for that
>>> — Apache projects work with mailing lists only.
>>>
>>> Hoping to see you all on the Apache NetBeans mailing lists, you’re
>>> encouraged to move there as soon as possible and to not write to the @
>>> netbeans.org mailing lists anymore.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Geertjan & Jirka
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Feedback/comments welcome. We'd like to send the above to all the @
>> netbeans.org mailing lists at the beginning of next week.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Gj and Jirka
>>
>>

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