I thought it is only a wording: modules, plugins, packages, I meant the same, but maybe it wasn’t the same. Thx that was everything what I wanted to know.
Cheers Chris Von: Geertjan Wielenga Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. Dezember 2017 20:17 An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: 2nd code donation What you install into NetBeans are never packages. They’re always plugins. And yes you can install the plugins that provide the NetBeans IDE 8.2 features for JavaScript etc into Apache NetBeans. Gj On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 at 20:14, Christian Lenz <christian.l...@gmx.net> wrote: > The 2nd code donation, brings that modules, that non Java developers need, > like PHP, HTML, JS, CSS, LESS, SCSS, C/C++ etc. but those are not part of > the 1st code donation which is a plain NetBeans Java IDE without those > modules, because they are not part of the NetBeans core atm. I only wanted > to know whether I can install those missing packages, anyway when I > download the NB 9 Beta or stable release or not. Not plugins from anyone > else, like other plugins from the plugin portal. I really mean that Code > from the core which is now missing in the incubation-netbeans repo, which > were there before under Oracle. > > > Cheers > > Chris > > Von: Geertjan Wielenga > Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. Dezember 2017 20:10 > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Betreff: Re: 2nd code donation > > I don’t know what you mean, but yes you can always install plugins, no one > will ever stop you to install plugins. > > Gj > > On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 at 20:08, Christian Lenz <christian.l...@gmx.net> > wrote: > > > Ok, I thought that they will be not available after the 1st code > donation, > > beacuse of license stuff or that we will exclude them all. But ok nice to > > know that. Thx. > > > > Von: Geertjan Wielenga > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. Dezember 2017 20:06 > > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > Betreff: Re: 2nd code donation > > > > If you mean ‘plugins’ when you say ‘packages’, then yes of course. > > > > Gj > > > > On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 at 20:05, Christian Lenz <christian.l...@gmx.net> > > wrote: > > > > > So when I install the the Beta or later the stable release of NB 9, I > can > > > install the missing packages that I Need as a webdeveloper for example > > PHP, > > > HTML, etc. and I don’t have to wait for the 2nd code donation? > > > > > > Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10 > > > > > > Von: Geertjan Wielenga > > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. Dezember 2017 19:58 > > > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > Betreff: Re: 2nd code donation > > > > > > Yes, you can always install 3rd party plugin, right now too. > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Christian Lenz < > christian.l...@gmx.net> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > It is not about the first code donation, it is a topic for after the > > > first > > > > release, I only wanted to bring up the topic, because lots of people > > are > > > > waiting for the other stuff too. If we are finish with the first code > > > > donation and we have the beta or RC1 or the stable release, I only > > wanted > > > > to suggest to bring the 2nd Code donation faster as 3rd Party modules > > > > releases AFTER the first Code donation. > > > > > > > > So I thought it could be better to bring it ASAP after the 1st > release > > of > > > > NB 9. If the transition phase takes more time for the 2nd code > > donation, > > > > than to bring the stuff as 3rd party plugins. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > Von: Geertjan Wielenga > > > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. Dezember 2017 19:52 > > > > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > Betreff: Re: 2nd code donation > > > > > > > > How would this help with releasing Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 > > Beta? > > > > > > > > Here's what's relevant for that, can you help with these tasks: > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Christian Lenz < > > christian.l...@gmx.net> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Would like to ping this Topic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Von: Christian Lenz > > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Dezember 2017 13:55 > > > > > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > > Betreff: 2nd code donation > > > > > > > > > > Hey, > > > > > > > > > > I know everyone is still working on the 1st code donation which is > > > great > > > > > and a lot of People, who are not Java developers, like me, waiting > > for > > > > the > > > > > other stuff. I have a Suggestion for this, maybe it is possible or > > not. > > > > As > > > > > someone said, it is okish to have 3rd Party plugins, which are NOT > > > Apache > > > > > licensed yet, so to add a Disclaimer, if they want to install it > > > anyway. > > > > So > > > > > is it possible to treat those „default“ modules like HTML, JS, CSS, > > > LESS, > > > > > SCSS, PHP, C/C++ and so which is not part of the 1st Code donation, > > as > > > > 3rd > > > > > Party plugin? > > > > > > > > > > Because in general, they are modules, but more coupled with the > > > NetBeans > > > > > platform then 3rd Party plugins which are not part of the core. So > > for > > > > for > > > > > my understanding, as Long as those modules are not donated to > Apache, > > > > they > > > > > can treated like 3rd Party plugins, which is ok, because of > different > > > > > licenses and after check the Disclaimer. Could this be possible? I > > > mean I > > > > > would rather bring smth live asap for not Java developer, than to > > wait > > > > > again 3 months or so after the first NB 9 release. If this is more > > work > > > > > than to Change the licenses and other stuff, ok we can Forget about > > it, > > > > but > > > > > as a compromise maybe? Because you already removed the modules from > > the > > > > > repo so they could be treated as 3rd Party plugins, not to be part > of > > > the > > > > > core, for the first and faster relese after NB 9 Java DIE. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
