Thank you!

--emi

‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐

On 13 June 2018 8:32 PM, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote:

> All done!
> 
> On 06/13/2018 12:22 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> 
> > Great, if it can be fixed like this, great.
> > 
> > Does it mean that when we vote for PPMC members we are voting for
> > 
> > committers at the same time, i.e., that they are the same for us? That’s
> > 
> > all I’m asking, to have this affirmed either way.
> > 
> > Gj
> > 
> > On Wednesday, June 13, 2018, Emilian Bold emilian.b...@protonmail.ch
> > 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Please correct:
> > > 
> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e1716b1cb49442f7e1176aee6c82ee
> > > 
> > > 1b9ab74536af46dde3fe40f185@%3Cprivate.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> > > 
> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/49e226c3bf2716fe1df02975eec627
> > > 
> > > 8bc85bde69b329bcfe2e9b19b6@%3Cprivate.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> > > 
> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1182d98092a1e22b463de6546ff724
> > > 
> > > 2cd084c5fc83a123aa27d1e46e@%3Cprivate.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> > > 
> > > --emi
> > > 
> > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > > 
> > > On 13 June 2018 8:14 PM, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org wrote:
> > > 
> > > > If they were correctly voted in as PPMC, I can fix it.
> > > > 
> > > > I just need some evidence, and I'm too lazy to look myself :p
> > > > 
> > > > On 06/13/2018 12:12 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > > [...] All I am asking is that we affirm that, i.e.,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > that we do not have separate processes for these roles but that one
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > vote
> > > > 
> > > > > > covers both...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Even if we change this it would not apply to previous votes.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Also, we have existing email templates the work, why change anything?
> > > > > 
> > > > > To me it seems we just have to fix a small error in whimsy records,
> > > > > 
> > > > > nothing else.
> > > > 
> > > > > --emi
> > > > > 
> > > > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 13 June 2018 8:07 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > 
> > > > > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > > Yes, my understanding is that our votes are to get people in as PPMC
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > member
> > > > 
> > > > > > and committer simulraneously. All I am asking is that we affirm
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > that, i.e.,
> > > > 
> > > > > > that we do not have separate processes for these roles but that one
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > vote
> > > > 
> > > > > > covers both...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Wednesday, June 13, 2018, Emilian Bold emilian.b...@protonmail.ch
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Is anyone opposed for considering all committers to be part of
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > the PPMC?
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > Effectively, during incubation, there is no difference between
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > the roles.
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > If no one disagrees in 72 hours, the above will be the way it 
> > > > > > > > is.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -1 (binding)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Not sure what the purpose of this is.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > We should have a vote result where people were voted into the
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > PPMC. If
> > > > 
> > > > > > > they are not listed on whimsy but they were voted in, it's just a
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > matter of
> > > > 
> > > > > > > fixing the records there via our mentors or the secretary.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Note that Antonio, which was voted in, is listed as part of the
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > PPMC.
> > > > 
> > > > > > > --emi
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On 13 June 2018 7:22 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I checked this URL, which is accessible to Apache committers
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > only, and I
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > noticed that the people we thought we had voted on as PPMC
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > members are
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > listed as committers.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/netbeans
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > ...which is not a problem during incubation, but can be a
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > problem at the
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > end of incubation when the list of PPMC members is taken as the
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > basis of
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > the new PMC, at which point 'mere' committers would be left out.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Is anyone opposed for considering all committers to be part of
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > the PPMC?
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > Effectively, during incubation, there is no difference between
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > the roles.
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > If no one disagrees in 72 hours, the above will be the way it 
> > > > > > > > is.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > > 
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