> On 13 Aug 2018, at 22:11, Neil C Smith <neilcsm...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 at 12:42, Brett Ryan <brett.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 13 Aug 2018, at 19:22, Neil C Smith <neilcsm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> I admit to using my mac as little as possible for testing purposes,
>>> but I really don't get why a zipped up application bundle is seen as
>>> unfriendly for macOS users?
>> 
>> Power users aside, it’s unfriendly for users of any OS. My test team team 
>> are a good example of people that want a one click setup, my devs just want 
>> to develop without needing to fiddle with a tool chain.
> 
> Are we talking about the same thing here!?  Double-click netbeans.zip
> to extract, double-click netbeans.app to run.

Actually, I did overlook this. I think that’s fine.

The thing I’m questioning though is I still think we need an installer when we 
do JEE, as it needs to install tomcat/glassfish (user ticks), then configures 
the IDE and container with user provided port settings.

> Best wishes,
> 
> Neil
> 
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