In my, personal view, DMG are much simpler for users.
http://www.owsiak.org/netbeans-make-macos-installer-beautiful-again/
All you have to do is to drag and drop app.
And you can drop it into your $HOME/Applications if you are not a super
user.
Michal
On 2018/08/20 10:02:04, Carl Mosca <c...@gmail.com> wrote: > Excellent,
thank you, will take a look.> > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 1:46 AM Geertjan
Wielenga> > <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:> > > > Here's info
about the installer-related code that is being audited for> > >
donation:> > >> > > http://wiki.netbeans.org/Launchers_Installers_NBI> >
>> > > Gj> > >> > >> > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:43 PM, Carl Mosca
<ca...@gmail.com> wrote:> > >> > > > Got it, thank you.> > > >> > > >
Carl> > > >> > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 4:40 PM Geertjan Wielenga> >
> > <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:> > > >> > > > > Note,
everything that is part of NetBeans is free and open source.> > > > >> >
> > > What we're discussing here is whether (1) Oracle is able to
donate the> > > > code> > > > > to Apache, which means Oracle needs to
make sure the code really and> > > > truly> > > > > does belong to
Oracle and (2) whether Apache can release the code. In> > > > this> > >
> > particular case, the 2nd part of not applicable -- Apache will not
be> > > > > releasing the code that is used to build the installers,
i.e., these> > > are> > > > > build/compile-time relevant only, so the
question of distribution of> > > > these> > > > > files is irrelevant.>
> > > >> > > > > Thanks,> > > > >> > > > > Gj> > > > >> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:37 PM, Carl Mosca
<ca...@gmail.com>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > OK thank you.> > > >
> >> > > > > > My understanding is that in general if there are IP
issues, the> > > > original> > > > > > authors cannot write the
new/replacement code and those who may write> > > > the> > > > > > new
code should not look at the old code...but I am not an attorney.> > >
:)> > > > > >> > > > > > Carl> > > > > >> > > > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018
at 4:35 PM Geertjan Wielenga> > > > > > <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid>
wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > Yes, it slipped through the cracks.
Possibly there'll be problems> > > > with> > > > > > > parts of the code
because of IP, but I'll be sure to keep this> > > thread> > > > > > >
updated as we move along with this now, i.e., it will (as much as> > > >
> > possible> > > > > > > of it) be part of the 3rd donation. It would
really help if those> > > > > > > knowledgeable in this area (there
appear to be a lot, in this> > > thread)> > > > > > would> > > > > > >
look at that repo and see whether those scripts and files and so on> > >
> do> > > > > > the> > > > > > > job and are what's needed, we're going
to need to build up> > > expertise> > > > in> > > > > > > this area
together, sure, Oracle engineers will be available to> > > > support> >
> > > > and> > > > > > > answer questions and so on, but the more we
spread the knowledge> > > the> > > > > > > better.> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > Gj> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:30 PM, Carl
Mosca <carljmo...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > This is good news. Somehow I got the impression that this
code> > > was> > > > > not> > > > > > > > available due to IP and/or
license issues.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thank you Gj.> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:39 AM Geertjan Wielenga> >
> > > > > > <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 5:46 AM, Will Hartung <> > > > >
willhart...@gmail.com> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > That said, looking at the git
zip download, there's most> > > > > certainly> > > > > > > > > evidence>
> > > > > > > > > of the ability to create the Mac installers, which
was kind> > > of> > > > my> > > > > > > base> > > > > > > > > > puzzle.
These existed before, where's the scripts to build> > > it?> > > > >
The> > > > > > > > actual> > > > > > > > > > build scripts I can't find,
I don't know if they are on/lost> > > > with> > > > > > the> > > > > > >
> > > Hudson server (I can't seem to connect to the one linked at> > >
the> > > > > > > nb.org> > > > > > > > > > page). All of the hudson.*
directories seem to relate to> > > > NetBeans> > > > > > > > hudson> > >
> > > > > > > support, not the build.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > That's a good point.> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Installers were always created for NetBeans
releases, including> > > > DMG> > > > > > > > > installers.> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > Looking in the hg repo at Oracle, this is where
the related> > > > scripts> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > so> > > > > > >
> > on are found:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
http://hg.netbeans.org/releases/file/tip/installer> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > These have not yet been included in the donation process,
since> > > > we> > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > been focusing on
clusters (e.g., the 'java' cluster, the 'php'> > > > > > cluster,> > > >
> > > > > etc) and this 'installer' folder falls outside the clusters.>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > So, we will work on including the
installer folder from the hg> > > > repo> > > > > > > into> > > > > > >
> > the donation that we're currently working on, i.e., the 3rd> > > >
> donation.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Apologies for not
thinking about this earlier -- i.e., we've> > > had> > > > > the> > > >
> > > > > solution all along and simply not yet included them in the> >
> > > donation.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Can those
knowledgeable in this area take a look at the above> > > > > folder> > >
> > > --> > > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > includes everything needed
AFAIK for installers for Windows,> > > > Linux,> > > > > > and> > > > >
> > > > Mac.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Gj> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Finally, the
Apache infrastructure has a build bot running> > > on a> > > > > Mac> >
> > > > > > Mini.> > > > > > > > > > If the original build scripts can
be found, and the proper> > > > > > > permissions> > > > > > > > > >
acquired on the Mac Build bot, then, ideally, the previous> > > > build>
> > > > > can> > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > ported to the new
infrastructure.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Ideally, this
shouldn't have to be a clean room reinvention> > > of> > > > > the> > >
> > > > > wheel> > > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > it were deigned
to be something that the group still wanted> > > to> > > > > have> > > >
> > > > > > supported.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > But, I
don't know.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Regards.> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > -->
> > > > > > > Carl J. Mosca> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > --> > > > > > Carl J. Mosca> > > > > >> > > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > --> > > > Carl J. Mosca> > > >> > >> >
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