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On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 1:46 PM William L. Thomson Jr. <w...@o-sinc.com>
wrote:

> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:14:58 +0200
> Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID> wrote:
>
> > No
>
> YES!!!!
>
> > the Apache terminology is voting candidate.
>
> Just because Apache terminology is voting candidate. That does not mean
> it should be tagged as such. I package quite a few Apache projects.
> NONE use this crazy format of -vc*. Most Apache release are voted on.
>
> Please stick with common stuff, dev, alpha, beta, pre. For releases
> there should be NO additional suffix.
>
> > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 7:06 AM László Kishalmi
> > <laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I meant: I'm not sure that we need to vote on this. It's more like
> > > a beta. Shouldn't we have called it beta at first? Just for the
> > > further release processes...
>
> Yes it should be a -beta or -pre, or something standard...
>
> Examples of other Apache release that were voted on and released
> without crazy tags....
>
> You can see Votes
> https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@maven.apache.org/
>
> No crazy -vc tags....
> https://github.com/apache/maven-resolver/releases
> https://github.com/apache/maven/releases
>
> Some more apache projects
> https://github.com/apache/tomcat/releases
> https://github.com/apache/ant/releases
> https://github.com/apache/commons-pool/releases
> https://github.com/apache/commons-logging/releases
>
> I have never seen any Apache project use -vc for tagging a vote
> candidate. They may exist, but the first time I recall seeing this was
> with Apache Netbeans. Can anyone find another Apache project that has
> -vc tags? If not then why is Netbeans doing this?
>
> This is what I had to do for 9.0. Nasty hidden change of version.
>
> https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/os-xtoo/blob/master/eclass/java-netbeans.eclass#L17
>
> I have to do something similar for 10.0-vc1. Which I also have to add
> some other prefix, as I cannot use 10.0 -> 10.0-vc1 like I do for 9.0.
> As 10 is not fully released, there maybe another 10.0-vc*....
>
> On github seems like 9.0 was never released.... What is the difference
> between 9.0-vc* and 10.0-vc* ? Which one the release?  Which one is
> just a voting candidate?
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/releases
>
> If you must continue on with -vc tags. Please create another non -vc
> tag for the actual release. You can have more than one tag for a given
> commit. But really the -vc stuff is just confusing. It seems only
> Netbeans is using this odd format. It is not standard.
>
> --
> William L. Thomson Jr.
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