Hi Aldrin:
Even if we subclass AbstractAWSProcessor and overwrite the onScheduled method, 
we still have to add (rather then replace createClient with aws creds argument) 
a createClient method that would take the credential provider argument rather 
than the aws credentials argument (the current implementation).  
current nifi aws createClient (with aws credentials)
    protected abstract ClientType createClient(final ProcessContext context, 
final AWSCredentials credentials, final ClientConfiguration config);
new nifi aws createClient (with aws credentials provider)
   protected abstract ClientType createClient(final ProcessContext context, 
final AWSCredentialsProvider credentialsProvider, final ClientConfiguration 
config);
Regarding overwriting onScheduled method.  Here is snippet of current 
AbstractAWSProcessor.onScheduled method (using aws credentials):
    @OnScheduled    public void onScheduled(final ProcessContext context) {     
   final ClientType awsClient = createClient(context, getCredentials(context), 
createConfiguration(context));        this.client = awsClient;...
So, in the subclass AbstractAWSProcessor.onScheduled method, we will check if 
controller is available and if so, call the create client with the credentials 
provider method. In this case each of the nifi aws processors (currently s3, 
sns, and sqs) will have to provide two implementation of create client (one 
with aws creds - the current one, and one with aws creds provider).
I might be missing something, but it looks like there will duplication of 
amazon client creation (one using creds and one using creds provider from the 
controller) along with two createClient method in Nifi's AbstractAWSProcessor 
which might causing confusion.  But that is just my thought.
Let me know what you think.

Thanks again.
Mans



    On Saturday, January 9, 2016 9:20 AM, Aldrin Piri <aldrinp...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
 

 Mans,

I think the ControllerService is definitely the right play moving forward.
What I think we can do is subclass the current AWSAbstractProcessor and
override onScheduled to provide a way to interact with the
ControllerService and, should one not be configured, defer to the parent
implementation.

We can mark AWSAbstractProcessor as deprecated and maintain backward
compatibility while adding some new functionality in for the accompanying
processors.


On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 8:01 AM, M Singh <mans2si...@yahoo.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Hi:
> I have started working on implementing a controller for creating creds
> provider and changing the createClient method to use the controller.
> If there is any advice/feedback on this, please let me know.
> Thanks again.
> Mans
>
>
>
>    On Friday, January 8, 2016 12:48 PM, M Singh
> <mans2si...@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote:
>
>
>  Hi Aldrin:
> The unfortunate things is that AWSCredentialsProvider does not inherit
> from AWSCredentials interface.
> As far as I can see, the provider interface is much more flexible and
> provides everything with we/anyone can need.  As we can see, the creds
> based constructors (AmazonS3/SQS/SNSClients) internally create a static
> creds provider instance.  If we support both the creds and creds provider
> based arguments, it could also confusing and error prone for developers
> extending the class.
> Even if we have an adapter how would the subclass of AbstractAWSProcessor
> call createClient allow the two arguments (creds and creds provider) to
> work seemlessly. Let me know if you have any other thoughts/paths I can
> investigate.
> Thanks for the feedback and I am learning a lot with this experience.
> Mans
>
>    On Friday, January 8, 2016 11:49 AM, Aldrin Piri <aldrinp...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>  Mans,
>
> Thanks for sticking with this and continuing to see things through, the
> community certainly appreciates it as these are very popular processors and
> this functionality will help a wide base of users.
>
> I am poking around a bit more and thinking we might be able to work
> something out with a class that adapts an AWSCredentialsProvider to
> AWSCredentials.  The AWSProvider interface is just composition of
> AWSCredentials with a refresh method.  Need to mull things over a bit, and
> dig through the associated libraries to understand how these are typically
> used, but this feels like it could be another avenue to consider and where
> I am directing my attention at the moment.
>
> --aldrin
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:58 AM, M Singh <mans2si...@yahoo.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Just one more note Joe (as mentioned in the Jira Ticket)
> > From what I can see, we cannot just deprecate createClient method in the
> > AbstractAWSProcessor which uses the AWSCredentials argument, since the
> > subclasses AbstractS3/SNS/SQSProcessor call that to create the respective
> > clients.  We will have to change the argument to AWSCredentialProvider.
> > If I can assist with any other investigation, please let me know.
> > Thanks again.
> >
> >    On Friday, January 8, 2016 5:31 AM, M Singh
> > <mans2si...@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote:
> >
> >
> >  Thanks Joe.
> > If you think that we can accept the change to creds provider, I will work
> > on making all the components in nifi aws processors to be consistent.  I
> > think using the creds provider interface is the way to go since it is
> more
> > flexible and at this moment we just have 3 aws processors to migrate.
> > Looking forward to hearing from you/anyone else for advice/feedback.
> > Mans
> >
> >    On Friday, January 8, 2016 5:18 AM, Joe Witt <joe.w...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >  Mans,
> >
> > I am working to put out a proposed roadmap and then probably won't be
> > very responsive until later tonight.  Will try to help then if no one
> > else has had a chance to.
> >
> > That said I see what you mean in terms of a breaking change in the
> > processor implementation as far as anyone else that has extended it.
> > There have been some discussions recently about this and I think the
> > plan is to start annotating everything with the audience and stability
> > of a given bit of code.  Processors are not meant to be locked down
> > APIs.  So, for now, given that it has been ambiguous to the community
> > the best course is to probably just deprecate a given method if it
> > cannot be safely repurposed and then use a new one which does meet the
> > need in the event the controller service is supplied.  This last
> > statement though is not based on me having looked at the code in any
> > detail yet.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Joe
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 8:08 AM, M Singh <mans2si...@yahoo.com.invalid>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Joe:
> > > I have not worked with the controller interface and aws processors so
> > perhaps you can help me understand it .
> > > From what I can see (as mentioned in
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NIFI-1325):  currently, the Nifi
> > AbstractAWSProcessor has a method
> > > protected abstract ClientType createClient(final ProcessContext
> context,
> > final AWSCredentials credentials, final ClientConfiguration config);
> > > This method is overridden in the AbstractS3/SNS/SQSProcesors to provide
> > the respective amazon s3/sns/sqs client using AWSCredentials argument.
> > > Here is a snippet from AmazonS3Client:
> > >    public AmazonS3Client(AWSCredentials awsCredentials,
> > ClientConfiguration clientConfiguration) {
> > super(clientConfiguration);        this.awsCredentialsProvider = new
> > StaticCredentialsProvider(awsCredentials);        init();    }
> > > So, AmazonS3/SNS/SQSClient created with AWSCredentials use
> > StaticCredentialsProvider in their implementation.
> > > All the AWSCredentials impls are static creds (Anonymous/Properties
> > Credentials) except for the STSSessionCredentials which has a refresh
> > method but is deprecated in favor of the STSSessionCredentialsProvider
> > interface.  AWSCredentials is the interface being used in nifi aws
> > processors.
> > > The AWSCredentialsProvider interface has a fresh method which all it's
> > subclasses implement appropriately - the static ones (like
> > PropertyFileCredentialsProvider/StaticCredentialsProvider have a no op
> for
> > refresh method) as follows:
> > >    public void refresh() {}
> > > From what I can see, there is no common interface available for
> > AWSCredentials and AWSCredentialsProvider that Nifi's
> > AbstractAWSProcessor.createClient can support.  So if we need to use the
> > controller interface with creds providers, will will have to change
> > AbstractAWSProcessor.createClient to the following
> > >
> > > protected abstract ClientType createClient(final ProcessContext
> context,
> > final AWSCredentialsProvider credentialsProvider,
> > > final ClientConfiguration config);
> > > This appears to be a breaking change for the clients who have extended
> > the AbstractAWSProcessor.createClient with the AWSCredentials argument
> > rather that the AWSCredentialsProvider.
> > > So, can you please elaborate on how the AbstractAWSProcessor will be
> > able to support both the current impl (ie, invoking aws components with
> > creds) and the proposed credentials provider interface ?
> > > Thanks
> > > Mans
> > >
> > >    On Thursday, January 7, 2016 9:00 PM, Joe Witt <joe.w...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >  Mans,
> > >
> > > It appears to me that there is a path for this not to be a breaking
> > > change for the flow.  By creating a controller service to handle the
> > > credential provider piece you should be able to just update the
> > > processor to support that controller service interface.  If the user
> > > sets that controller service then you use that and if they don't then
> > > you revert to using the older properties.  We can mark those
> > > properties as no longer the preferred model and deprecate them in the
> > > codebase then when we reach a 1.0 milestone we can remove them.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Joe
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:07 PM, M Singh <mans2si...@yahoo.com.invalid>
> > wrote:
> > >> Hi:
> > >> Just wanted to mention that if we go with the creds provider interface
> > it will be breaking change for nifi aws components as mentioned in
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NIFI-1325.
> > >> Also, I am considering creating one aws creds provider controller
> which
> > will provide creds provider based on property file, basic, anonymous or
> > assume role session params.
> > >> Please let me know if there is any additional feedback for me.
> > >> Thanks again.
> > >> Mans
> > >>
> > >>    On Thursday, January 7, 2016 2:56 PM, M Singh
> > <mans2si...@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  Hi Joe:
> > >> Based on your feedback I will try to explore the controller interface
> > for aws creds provider.
> > >> Thanks for your advice.
> > >> Mans
> > >>
> > >>    On Thursday, January 7, 2016 4:15 AM, Joe Witt <joe.w...@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  Mans
> > >>
> > >> Appreciate you pushing this forward.  There is a related idea to
> better
> > >> handle aws credentials for all the aws  procs.  Will look more and
> > respond.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >> Joe
> > >> On Jan 7, 2016 6:52 AM, "M Singh" <mans2si...@yahoo.com.invalid>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi:
> > >>> Just wanted to follow-up and see if anyone has any feedback on .
> > >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NIFI-1325.
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>> Mans
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
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