Chad,

So far I thought that only the NiFi variables are deprecated and access to 
environment variables will still be possible.

If this is not the case, then I agree with you. It should definitely be 
possible to access environment variables. Otherwise I can't imagine how to 
refer to the hostname or the current JAVA path or ... or ... or on each node?!

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards
Kay-Uwe Moosheimer

> Am 19.10.2020 um 20:00 schrieb Chad Zobrisky <[email protected]>:
> 
> Andy,
> 
> Thanks for the response!
> 
> When I was thinking through this the deprecation of variables was
> definitely on my mind but the fact that it already had direct access to
> environment variables was the simplest path. I think it does make more
> sense to add access to environment variables to the parameter context, or
> allowing a specific scope just for environment variables in the
> expression language.
> 
> I think giving access to environment variables actually allows more
> portability between environments, eg dev, test, prod. Defining those once
> and allowing for nifi to pull them in makes sense to me and I think is
> common in container environments.
> 
> Looking forward to discussing more and better approaches.
> Chad
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 1:46 PM Andy LoPresto <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chad,
>> 
>> Parameters were introduced as a way to deprecate (NiFi) variables
>> entirely. I’m not sure that introducing a dependency between the two is a
>> positive step forward. I think there is a separate conversation to be had
>> about allowing parameters access to environment variables, but I think this
>> could introduce problems as parameters are designed for flexibility and
>> portability, and moving from a system where a parameter was actually a
>> pass-through to an environment variable would cause unexpected problems on
>> the destination system.
>> 
>> I think the pros and cons of this need to be clearly enumerated and
>> discussed here. Thanks for bringing this up.
>> 
>> 
>> Andy LoPresto
>> [email protected]
>> [email protected]
>> He/Him
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>>>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 9:43 AM, Chad Zobrisky <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I was configuring an SSL Context Controller Service today and had the
>>> keystores and passwords passed into the container via environment
>>> variables. I thought it would be nice to be able to reference these from
>>> the parameter context. Maybe either giving Parameter Context values the
>>> VARIABLE_REGISTRY scope in the Expression Language, or a new scope for
>>> references external to nifi?
>>> 
>>> I think for refreshing the Parameter Context on those external changes,
>> it
>>> would require an edit/re-apply just as it does now, and would have to
>> make
>>> sure it is well documented.
>>> 
>>> I'd be interested in creating a PR for this if the idea makes sense and
>> is
>>> acceptable.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Chad
>> 
>> 

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