I dont think your point of view is very realistic. You seem to be
turning the situation into something that pleases you but is not really
compatible with what can be observed from outside.
In the archive for 2023 there are 2035 topics, I just overlooked more
than 600 of them and ALL of them are just copies of github messages. And
this is normal, because this is unusable.
Also, I cannot actively review ALL the hundreds of pull requests that
are regularly sent by large companies.
I am primarily a user, that sometimes sends small contributions.
And I am unhappy when I see that other people were careless with nice
code and do whatever they want for their own agenda without any
consideration for other users.
To be honest I dont fully understand why SO MANY changes are required to
core OS features that should be stable.
There need to be some triage when a new pull request is sent, its
severity evaluated by someone who is NOT in the company of the original
contributor, and if severe, it has to be approved on the mailing list. I
cannot do that alone, even if I try.
At this point do you realize that more than !~90ish% of changes seem to
come from xiaomi developers and most of these are approved by xiaoxiang
alone?
Because this HAS to be said. They send overwhelming numbers
contributions that cannot be possibly understood as a whole, there is no
clear agenda, they add whatever they like with no roadmap and no review
from other users that may have other uses.
This has to be under control somehow. I believe even you Alan are not
aware of the amount of code that enters nuttx. No one can be now.
Sebastien
Le 08/03/2023 à 14:39, Alan C. Assis a écrit :
Hi Sebastien,
Yes, that commit list is mostly for people who don't want to use
github but still wanting to see what is going on.
Sometimes when a very important PR raises some concern on GitHub PR,
people post their concern he, it already happened many times.
But again: the best way to guarantee that current changes please you
is to keep actively reviewing the PRs and contributing to the project.
BR,
Alan
On 3/8/23, Sebastien Lorquet <sebast...@lorquet.fr> wrote:
Hi,
I had a look and this mailing list is not made for human consumption.
No one has ever sent a message on it manually, right?
In practice, important changes are still NOT discussed on the DEV
mailing list.
You said yourself that "all development has moved to github".
As soon as automated tests are passed, every commit is considered with a
similar level of importance, however this is clearly not the case.
Sebastien
Le 08/03/2023 à 13:21, Alan C. Assis a écrit :
HI Sebastien,
It is already done, you just need to subscribe to
https://lists.apache.org/list.html?comm...@nuttx.apache.org to receive
all commits messages and discussions.
Everything is archived on apache side!
BR,
Alan
On 3/8/23, Sebastien Lorquet <sebast...@lorquet.fr> wrote:
Apache projects are required to use mailing lists for long term archival
purposes.
It seems to me that this project is avoiding that rule and moved all
development to github
This is in contradiction with the Apache project rules.
I request clarification on this situation and requirement (instead of
just asserting it), including a review by the apache boards.
If it is proved that development happens primarily in github and not
here I will request the following:
-every people committing patches and submitting pull request to be
registered on the mailing list so they are able to reply to questions
-forwarding of all pull requests traffic to the mailing list
For two reasons: (1) Archival purposes, and (2) open discussions with
members that follow Apache Foundation mailing list rules and do not take
part in github.
Thank you
Sebastien
