I am sorry David, i do not see both of your points, why it does not
belong in the main project and why it does not fit with the data
structure? My intention is simply that i see a benefit here saving time
for future implementations.

My i ask you why you not reply on my arguments?

regards,
Hans

On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 18:59 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
> Yeah, the point is that this doesn't belong in the main project, it doesn't 
> fit with the intent of that data structure.
> 
> Are you not using a custom template for this for your client? When you have 
> something that is good for your client but not for the project, that's what 
> should be done, it shouldn't go back into the project.
> 
> -David
> 
> 
> Hans Bakker wrote:
> > David,
> > The only areas i see, where the allocated features should not show up is
> > in the usage of features in manufacturing and searching. Most of my
> > customers do not use the features there.
> > 
> > What they want however is that we are not involved when they add a
> > feature to a product and want to use that in e-commerce.
> > 
> > Is modification of this new code not much easier then to add the new
> > code in the old situation? In the old situation you ALWAYS have to
> > modify when people are using features, in the new situation sometimes.
> > 
> > Ok, to make people happy in both situations, let's add a flag to the
> > feature entity where can be indicated that the feature should not show
> > up in e-commerce.
> > 
> > regards,
> > Hans
> > 
> > On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 04:41 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
> >> Hans,
> >>
> >> So the intention is that it's useful to have all features show up? Could 
> >> be more specific, what exactly are you trying to have show?
> >>
> >> Features are used for a lot of different things. Here is a list of the 
> >> OOTB types, and many companies add additional types as needed. We do have 
> >> a couple of clients (one in the metal mesh industry and one in the jewelry 
> >> industry) with dozens of features on each Product in order to enable 
> >> parametric searches, configuration and UI options, and lots of other stuff.
> >>
> >> Here is a list of types from the ProductTypeData.xml file:
> >>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Accessory" hasTable="N" 
> >> parentTypeId="" productFeatureTypeId="ACCESSORY"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Amount" hasTable="N" parentTypeId="" 
> >> productFeatureTypeId="AMOUNT"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Net Weight" hasTable="N" 
> >> parentTypeId="AMOUNT" productFeatureTypeId="NET_WEIGHT"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Artist" hasTable="N" parentTypeId="" 
> >> productFeatureTypeId="ARTIST"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Billing Feature" hasTable="N" 
> >> parentTypeId="" productFeatureTypeId="BILLING_FEATURE"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Brand" hasTable="N" parentTypeId="" 
> >> productFeatureTypeId="BRAND"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Care" hasTable="N" parentTypeId="" 
> >> productFeatureTypeId="CARE"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Color" hasTable="N" parentTypeId="" 
> >> productFeatureTypeId="COLOR"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Dimension" hasTable="N" 
> >> parentTypeId="" productFeatureTypeId="DIMENSION"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Equipment Class" hasTable="N" 
> >> parentTypeId="" productFeatureTypeId="EQUIP_CLASS"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Fabric" hasTable="N" parentTypeId="" 
> >> productFeatureTypeId="FABRIC"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Genre" hasTable="N" parentTypeId="" 
> >> productFeatureTypeId="GENRE"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Gift Wrap" hasTable="N" 
> >> parentTypeId="" productFeatureTypeId="GIFT_WRAP"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Hardware Feature" hasTable="N" 
> >> parentTypeId="" productFeatureTypeId="HARDWARE_FEATURE"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Hazmat" hasTable="N" parentTypeId="" 
> >> productFeatureTypeId="HAZMAT"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="License" hasTable="N" parentTypeId="" 
> >> productFeatureTypeId="LICENSE"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Origin" hasTable="N" parentTypeId="" 
> >> productFeatureTypeId="ORIGIN"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Other Feature" hasTable="N" 
> >> parentTypeId="" productFeatureTypeId="OTHER_FEATURE"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Product Quality" hasTable="N" 
> >> parentTypeId="" productFeatureTypeId="PRODUCT_QUALITY"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Size" hasTable="N" parentTypeId="" 
> >> productFeatureTypeId="SIZE"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Software Feature" hasTable="N" 
> >> parentTypeId="" productFeatureTypeId="SOFTWARE_FEATURE"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Style" hasTable="N" parentTypeId="" 
> >> productFeatureTypeId="STYLE"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Symptom" hasTable="N" parentTypeId="" 
> >> productFeatureTypeId="SYMPTOM"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Topic" hasTable="N" parentTypeId="" 
> >> productFeatureTypeId="TOPIC"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Type" hasTable="N" parentTypeId="" 
> >> productFeatureTypeId="TYPE"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Warranty" hasTable="N" 
> >> parentTypeId="" productFeatureTypeId="WARRANTY"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Model Year" hasTable="N" 
> >> parentTypeId="" productFeatureTypeId="MODEL_YEAR"/>
> >>     <ProductFeatureType description="Year Made" hasTable="N" 
> >> parentTypeId="" productFeatureTypeId="YEAR_MADE"/>
> >>
> >> Do we REALLY want to automatically show these to the customer?
> >>
> >> -David
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hans Bakker wrote:
> >>> David,
> >>> I think it is usefull that features show up automatically without manual
> >>> intervention, and when not desired can easily be supressed.
> >>>
> >>> Can you explain to me in which cases you have hundreds of features you
> >>> do not want to show a customer? I can not even imagine that. Also the
> >>> Demo data does not have these cases.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Hans
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 01:54 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
> >>>> Hans,
> >>>>
> >>>> What was the intent of this change?
> >>>>
> >>>> It seems a little funny to me because:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. many features are not meant to EVER be shown a customer
> >>>> 2. a product could have dozens or hundreds of features, which doesn't 
> >>>> fit so well in a productsummary
> >>>>
> >>>> -David
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>>>> Author: hansbak
> >>>>> Date: Tue Sep 18 00:23:41 2007
> >>>>> New Revision: 576743
> >>>>>
> >>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=576743&view=rev
> >>>>> Log:
> >>>>> list all features of a product in the product summary and not only a 
> >>>>> specific one.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Modified:
> >>>>>     
> >>>>> ofbiz/trunk/applications/order/webapp/ordermgr/WEB-INF/actions/entry/catalog/productsummary.bsh
> >>>>>     
> >>>>> ofbiz/trunk/applications/order/webapp/ordermgr/entry/catalog/productsummary.ftl
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Modified: 
> >>>>> ofbiz/trunk/applications/order/webapp/ordermgr/WEB-INF/actions/entry/catalog/productsummary.bsh
> >>>>> URL: 
> >>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/applications/order/webapp/ordermgr/WEB-INF/actions/entry/catalog/productsummary.bsh?rev=576743&r1=576742&r2=576743&view=diff
> >>>>> ==============================================================================
> >>>>> --- 
> >>>>> ofbiz/trunk/applications/order/webapp/ordermgr/WEB-INF/actions/entry/catalog/productsummary.bsh
> >>>>>  (original)
> >>>>> +++ 
> >>>>> ofbiz/trunk/applications/order/webapp/ordermgr/WEB-INF/actions/entry/catalog/productsummary.bsh
> >>>>>  Tue Sep 18 00:23:41 2007
> >>>>> @@ -137,12 +137,41 @@
> >>>>>      }
> >>>>>  }
> >>>>>  
> >>>>> -// an example of getting features of a certain type to show
> >>>>> -sizeProductFeatureAndAppls = 
> >>>>> delegator.findByAnd("ProductFeatureAndAppl", 
> >>>>> UtilMisc.toMap("productId", productId, "productFeatureTypeId", "SIZE"), 
> >>>>> UtilMisc.toList("sequenceNum", "defaultSequenceNum"));
> >>>>> +// Show all features and their values:
> >>>>> +List productFeatures = new LinkedList();
> >>>>> +productFeatureAndAppls = delegator.findByAnd("ProductFeatureAndAppl", 
> >>>>> +        UtilMisc.toMap("productId", productId), 
> >>>>> +        UtilMisc.toList("productFeatureTypeId","sequenceNum", 
> >>>>> "defaultSequenceNum"));
> >>>>> +pfIter = productFeatureAndAppls.iterator();
> >>>>> +oldProductFeatureTypeId = null;
> >>>>> +values = new LinkedList();
> >>>>> +while (pfIter.hasNext()) {
> >>>>> +    productFeatureAppl = pfIter.next();
> >>>>> +    Debug.logInfo("processing product: " + productId + "  " + 
> >>>>> productFeatureAppl.getString("productFeatureTypeId") + "--" + 
> >>>>> productFeatureAppl.getString("description"), ""); 
> >>>>> +    if (oldProductFeatureTypeId != null && 
> >>>>> !oldProductFeatureTypeId.equals(productFeatureAppl.getString("productFeatureTypeId")))
> >>>>>  {
> >>>>> +        productFeatures.add(
> >>>>> +            UtilMisc.toMap("description", 
> >>>>> +                delegator.findByPrimaryKeyCache("ProductFeatureType", 
> >>>>> UtilMisc.toMap("productFeatureTypeId", 
> >>>>> oldProductFeatureTypeId)).getString("description"),
> >>>>> +                "abbreviation",oldProductFeatureTypeId, 
> >>>>> +                "types", values));
> >>>>> +        values = new LinkedList();
> >>>>> +    } 
> >>>>> +    values.add(productFeatureAppl.getString("description"));
> >>>>> +    oldProductFeatureTypeId = 
> >>>>> productFeatureAppl.getString("productFeatureTypeId");
> >>>>> +}
> >>>>> +if (values.size() != 0) {
> >>>>> +    productFeatures.add(
> >>>>> +            UtilMisc.toMap("description", 
> >>>>> +                delegator.findByPrimaryKeyCache("ProductFeatureType", 
> >>>>> UtilMisc.toMap("productFeatureTypeId", 
> >>>>> oldProductFeatureTypeId)).getString("description"),
> >>>>> +                "abbreviation",oldProductFeatureTypeId, 
> >>>>> +                "types", values));
> >>>>> +    context.put("productFeatures", productFeatures);
> >>>>> +} else {
> >>>>> +    context.remove("productFeatures");
> >>>>> +}
> >>>>>  
> >>>>>  context.put("product", product);
> >>>>>  context.put("productStoreId", productStoreId);
> >>>>>  context.put("categoryId", categoryId);
> >>>>>  context.put("productReviews", reviews);
> >>>>> -context.put("sizeProductFeatureAndAppls", sizeProductFeatureAndAppls);
> >>>>>      
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Modified: 
> >>>>> ofbiz/trunk/applications/order/webapp/ordermgr/entry/catalog/productsummary.ftl
> >>>>> URL: 
> >>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/applications/order/webapp/ordermgr/entry/catalog/productsummary.ftl?rev=576743&r1=576742&r2=576743&view=diff
> >>>>> ==============================================================================
> >>>>> --- 
> >>>>> ofbiz/trunk/applications/order/webapp/ordermgr/entry/catalog/productsummary.ftl
> >>>>>  (original)
> >>>>> +++ 
> >>>>> ofbiz/trunk/applications/order/webapp/ordermgr/entry/catalog/productsummary.ftl
> >>>>>  Tue Sep 18 00:23:41 2007
> >>>>> @@ -93,17 +93,15 @@
> >>>>>            <div class="tabletext">${prodCatMem.comments}</div>
> >>>>>            </#if>
> >>>>>            
> >>>>> -          <#-- example of showing a certain type of feature with the 
> >>>>> product -->
> >>>>> -          <#if sizeProductFeatureAndAppls?has_content>
> >>>>> +          <#-- list all feature types and values with the product -->
> >>>>> +          <#if productFeatures?has_content>
> >>>>>              <div class="tabletext">
> >>>>> -              <#if (sizeProductFeatureAndAppls?size == 1)>
> >>>>> -                Size:
> >>>>> -              <#else>
> >>>>> -                Sizes Available:
> >>>>> -              </#if>
> >>>>> -              <#list sizeProductFeatureAndAppls as 
> >>>>> sizeProductFeatureAndAppl>
> >>>>> -                
> >>>>> ${sizeProductFeatureAndAppl.abbrev?default(sizeProductFeatureAndAppl.description?default(sizeProductFeatureAndAppl.productFeatureId))}<#if
> >>>>>  sizeProductFeatureAndAppl_has_next>,</#if>
> >>>>> -              </#list>
> >>>>> +            <#list productFeatures as productFeature>
> >>>>> +                
> >>>>> <b>${productFeature.description?default(productFeature.abbreviation)}(s):</b>
> >>>>> +                <#list productFeature.types as type> 
> >>>>> +                  ${type}<#if type_has_next>,</#if>
> >>>>> +                </#list>
> >>>>> +            </#list>
> >>>>>              </div>
> >>>>>            </#if>
> >>>>>            <div class="tabletext">
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> 
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