Hmm. I didn't think about this, that we shouldn't release for sake of getting attention. It's true that it is irritating to end-users if we release something not functional. OFBiz 4.0 is functional. I haven't found any show-stopping bugs.

The reason for the release, IHMO, isn't to get attention. It is to steer away from rejecting attention. Believe me, people have heard about OFBiz where I am. Quite the craze, especially where SAP was widely used for expensive and less-than-optimal results.

The next question after they hear about OFBiz: "So how do I get OFBiz?".

Jonathon

David E Jones wrote:

But +1 for what reason?

We will NOT release this just to get attention. We will release it when there is at least a small consensus that it is ready.

-David


On Nov 26, 2007, at 1:19 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:

+1 beta

probably the only way it will ever get any attention.

David E Jones sent the following on 11/26/2007 11:44 AM:

On Nov 26, 2007, at 9:19 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

BTW I think the time is coming to answer questions like in
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Demo+and+Test+Setup+Guide?focusedCommentId=2604#comment-2604


What to you think, you developpers ?

I think first things first...

The first question for the release4.0 branch is: is it ready from a
code, etc perspective to be released?

I asked a question a few weeks ago to try to determine how many people
are using the release branch and have found it sufficient for even a
"beta" label (which technically even the trunk SHOULD have, ie no one
should commit anything that isn't at least point tested)?

It only takes a couple of hours to build the release and get it uploaded
and such. I pretty much have to do that as I'm the one who has been
signing the releases and such (it is my signature in the KEYS file, etc).

Before that happens we need to make sure we're ready for a release as a
community, and then the PMC needs to vote on a candidate revision in the
branch for a binary release.

Right now I personally haven't tested it much, and I realistically won't
be able to, but I am willing to vote for it if there is enough community
feedback that it is in a good state for release. In fact, I'd be
ecstatic to see this happen! Each PMC member needs to consider their own
criteria for the binary release being ready, and right now this is mine.

So, that gets us back to the first things first thingy mentioned above...

Please comment everyone so we can get this moving forward!

I'll leave this on the dev list for now and we can start something in a
bit on the user list if there isn't enough feedback here.

-David




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