Good idea Sharan. And yes, we need to think about the tasks we can assign
to the entry-level people, that too students.

Regards
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Pritam Kute

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 1:00 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:

> Thanks for this information Gaurav
>
> Jacques
>
>
>
> Le 30/01/2018 à 08:03, Gaurav Saini a écrit :
>
>> Hello Sharan,
>>
>> I am really excited to see this that we are thinking about participating
>> in
>> Google Summer of Code this year and I can say from my personal experience
>> as a past GSOC student and mentor/org admin from last 3 years for
>> different
>> organisations, GSOC really helps the project. I would be interested to
>> mentor the students also andf where ever I can help.
>>
>> For the process I think we need to list the projects ideas on official
>> apache page so students can start looking into the ideas. Another
>> important
>> point here I want to mention from my experience as a student while we
>> select a project, is that the title of the projects should be clear and
>> easily understood and technologies used should be a bit exciting so
>> students read about the project in detail.
>>
>> Regarding the difficulty level and understanding OFBiz architecture they
>> have around good amount of time before the coding period starts so in that
>> time they can understand and try some tutorials that way they can speed up
>> the things. Also, many times what happens is project is not completed
>> entirely in single GSOC and that if fine as some work is done and can be
>> continued by another student in next year also.
>>
>> Also, as mentioned atleast I have seen mentors need to spend around 6
>> hours
>> weekly with students so to keep track of the project. Daily check-in
>> status
>> and weekly call with mentors really helps.
>>
>> These are some of the points from my experience, would look forward to see
>> Apache OFBiz project in GSOC :)
>>
>> Thanks
>> Gaurav
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 11:40 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
>> slidingfilame...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Michael, Sharan, all
>>>
>>> I would volunteer as a mentor. Michael raised a good point regarding
>>> the complexity level of the tasks assigned to these participants.
>>>
>>> So the question is, what kind of tasks are suitable for such students?
>>> It's hard to think of logic simpler than writing some documentation,
>>> or some groovy services, or some unit tests. Do you have in mind some
>>> tasks that might be simpler? Or do you simply think entry-level people
>>> might not be able to absorb a framework like OFBiz?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Michael Brohl
>>> <michael.br...@ecomify.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Sharan,
>>>>
>>>> I think a participation in the GsoC is a good idea in general.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure if the proposed topics are suitable for such a program,
>>>> especially if the students are not familiar with OFBiz. They need a lot
>>>>
>>> of
>>>
>>>> knowhow and learning before one can be productive and the mentors must
>>>>
>>> spent
>>>
>>>> a significant amount of time to support them.
>>>>
>>>> So, from the ASF perspective this might be a good idea, but for the
>>>>
>>> project
>>>
>>>> it is not efficient.
>>>>
>>>> We should find some simpler topics for the GsoC to make this a
>>>> reasonable
>>>> initiative. At the moment, I have not the right idea what this could be.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 25.01.18 um 15:02 schrieb Sharan Foga:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All
>>>>>
>>>>> The ASF is registering to be a participating organisation for GsoC
>>>>> 2018.
>>>>> We are in the middle of doing a lot of work. Would it be interesting
>>>>>
>>>> for us
>>>
>>>> to add some of these tasks to the GsoC list and mentor some students?
>>>>>
>>>> It is
>>>
>>>> a good way of encouraging new people to become involved with the
>>>>>
>>>> project and
>>>
>>>> maybe also promote OFBiz too.
>>>>>
>>>>> If any of our tasks are selected, then we would need official mentors
>>>>>
>>>> from
>>>
>>>> our community to work with the student on a regular basis to provide
>>>>> feedback. There is also a regular reporting that the mentor needs to
>>>>>
>>>> file
>>>
>>>> about the student's progress.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the mentor misses filing a report for a student then it reflects
>>>>>
>>>> badly
>>>
>>>> on the ASF as a mentoring organisation. I mention this because it is
>>>>> important that anyone wanitng to be a mentor for a GsoC student
>>>>> realises
>>>>> that if they sign up to do it – then they need to do it!
>>>>>
>>>>> Some initial suggestions for GsoC tasks from Taher were:
>>>>>
>>>>> - convert minilang services to groovy
>>>>> - documenting the components using the documentation framework we're
>>>>> implementing
>>>>> - convert integration tests to unit tests where possible
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have any other suggestions for potential tasks then please
>>>>>
>>>> respond
>>>
>>>> with the details.
>>>>>
>>>>> None of this is any good – if we don't have any mentors, so we need
>>>>> people willing to be GsoC mentors.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what's next?
>>>>>
>>>>> - First I'd like to get feedback on whether people think it is a good
>>>>>
>>>> idea
>>>
>>>> for OFBiz to participate
>>>>> - If, so then second I would like to see if we should use the
>>>>>
>>>> suggestions
>>>
>>>> for tasks above or have any more
>>>>> - Finally, and most importantly I'd like to know who would be willing
>>>>> to
>>>>> be a mentor for a student selecting to take on one of our tasks
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let me have your comments and feedback
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Sharan
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
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