I've not analysed the issue in details, but an in-middle solution should
be to remove the problematic links from trunk, and fill a new Jira for
implementing it in the better way :).
Gil

Le mardi 21 août 2018 à 10:10:03 (+0200), Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> OK, that your and Michael's opinions. So you prefer NPEs in code than hiding 
> them when necessary?
> 
> What others think?
> 
> Jacques
> 
> 
> Le 21/08/2018 à 09:45, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
> > Again, hiding is not a solution and is correcting an error with another
> > error.
> > 
> > -1
> > 
> > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018, 10:37 AM Jacques Le Roux 
> > <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > See my answer in the Jira, we can't tolerate NPEs, they are already there
> > > for too long
> > > 
> > > Being smart is cool, being smart and clean is better ;)
> > > 
> > > Jacques
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Le 21/08/2018 à 08:57, Michael Brohl a écrit :
> > > > We should neither simply remove those links nor should we have anything
> > > hard coded.
> > > > Let's look for a smarter solution. No need to hurry, better take some
> > > time to implement something sustainable.
> > > > Regards,
> > > > 
> > > > Michael Brohl
> > > > ecomify GmbH
> > > > www.ecomify.de
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Am 21.08.18 um 07:00 schrieb Jacques Le Roux:
> > > > > Of course, but I like to be able to get from the backend to the
> > > frontend when it's possible.
> > > > > I don't see any troubles keeping them once it's handled that way, but
> > > theoretical ones .
> > > > > Of course if the community prefers to remove them it's far easier and
> > > was what I wanted to do initially before having this idea of hiding links
> > > > > Jacques
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Le 21/08/2018 à 01:03, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
> > > > > > Simple, don't put any logic that points outwards from the framework.
> > > That
> > > > > > is sort of why we split repositories in the first place.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 8:00 PM Jacques Le Roux <
> > > jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Le 20/08/2018 à 16:53, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
> > > > > > > > Makes sense. However, i note reading in the JIRA that "we can 
> > > > > > > > simply
> > > hide
> > > > > > > > the button when the ecommerce component is not present". That 
> > > > > > > > sounds
> > > like
> > > > > > > > logic that points outwards which is a bad design IMHO.
> > > > > > > I could not find a better way yet, I'm all ears for ideas.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Anyway, I think it is a reasonable step to take. +1
> > > > > > > I attached a patch for today at OFBIZ-9241
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Jacques
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 5:31 PM Jacques Le Roux <
> > > > > > > jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > The proposition is in the title.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > With the changes I'm introducing with OFBIZ-9241 there will 
> > > > > > > > > few
> > > > > > > > > differences in UI (and presence of js files) between the 
> > > > > > > > > framework
> > > only
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > framework+plugins
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I must add:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >      * since the old is often no longer supported and a 
> > > > > > > > > release of
> > > it is
> > > > > > > > > always available (today R13) for users. I think removing the 
> > > > > > > > > old
> > > demo is
> > > > > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > >        not a big deal.
> > > > > > > > >      * I found several cases where people, new to OFBiz, 
> > > > > > > > > considered
> > > OFBiz
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > what we call the framework, and were considering the plugins 
> > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > optional.
> > > > > > > > > What do you think?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Jacques
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> 

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