Ah, sorry Taher if I was not clear enough.Yes, I think we should do the switch to Adopt Open JDK 8 LTS now for trunk, 18.12 and 17.12 to make the project independent from the short cycled releases of the Oracle JDK and the subscription for use of the Oracle JDK 8 LTS.
I just recognized that Adopt JDK 11 LTS will be available until Sept. 2022. If that is not a mistake I have to refine the timeline: we can then switch to Adopt Open JDK 11 LTS on trunk right before the release branch for 19.x is created. I guess that the future LTS releases will have support for at least 4 years.
That means we would remain Java 8 compatible for the releases 16 to 18 and announce the Java 11 dependency for release 19 and up. This should give users enough time to plan, test and migrate.
Users could work with release branch 19.x on Open JDK 11 for 2,5 years then.For the future, I would suggest to introduce a new Open JDK LTS version about 3-6 months after the first release, we might want to create a new release branch in the course of this.
What do you think? Regards, Michael Brohl ecomify GmbH - www.ecomify.de Am 15.04.19 um 13:25 schrieb Taher Alkhateeb:
Hi Michael, So just to understand your suggestion clearly. Are you recommending that we switch from oracle JDK to open JDK now (in 18 and trunk) and introduce open jdk 11 in 2021? On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:46 AM Michael Brohl <michael.br...@ecomify.de> wrote:Hi Scott, all, yes, Adopt Open JDK 8 LTS is supported at least untile September 2023 [1] Thinking about this a bit more I second to stay with Open JDK 8 LTS for release branches 17.12, 18.12 and trunk for now. Professional users/ companies have a very conservative update strategy for base technologies like the JDK and we should support it as long as it is reasonable. So, my suggestion would be to introduce Adopt Open JDK 11 LTS with the release branch 21.x, meaning that we change to JDK 11 right before the release branch will be created. This gives us plenty of time to test with Java 11 and we can introduce Java 11 features in the trunk after that. So release branch 22.x would be the first to depend on Java 11. What do you think? Best regards, Michael Brohl ecomify GmbH - www.ecomify.de [1] https://adoptopenjdk.net/support.html Am 15.04.19 um 00:07 schrieb Scott Gray:My understanding was that openjdk would support java 8 until 2023. In the past our strategy used to be that we should ensure the code base would operate on newer java versions but keep our minimum required version as low as possible. That effectively allows users to run whatever version they like. So unless there are some compelling new features in java 9/10/11 that we think we must have, I'd prefer it if we kept our minimum supported version as low as possible. For myself, all client projects are still running java 8 (openjdk) so before I could continue contributing to OFBiz I would have to figure out how to run both versions on my machine with minimal disruption. Since I don't have a huge amount of spare time, I would probably just put it off for quite a while and work on other things. I'm not trying to veto the idea, if the community wants to proceed then it should but I doubt I'm the only contributor we'd be putting another hurdle in front of. Regards Scott On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 09:09, Taher Alkhateeb <slidingfilame...@gmail.com> wrote:Well, I could be mistaken but it seems EOL for java 8 is coming soon (2019 commercial 2020 personal) [1]. This seems to be the case because the new LTS is out which is java 11. Also this new release model from oracle seems to be annoying which is pushing developers to adopt the openjdk instead. So I guess the reason for the upgrade is to strike two birds with one stone: upgrade java and switch to openjdk. With that being said, I don't have a firm opinion on upgrading and I just wanted to highlight things, I leave it to other folks to decide. [1] https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/java-se-support-roadmap.html On Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 10:38 PM Scott Gray <scott.g...@hotwaxsystems.com> wrote:That would probably halt any further contributions from me in the shorttomedium term. Can I ask why we need to require 11 when 8 is supported through to 2023? Regards Scott On Sun, 14 Apr 2019, 23:37 Jacques Le Roux, <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>wrote:If nobody disagree, I'll make the last move (ie ask for Java 11 in build.gradle) in 3 days Jacques Le 13/04/2019 à 12:34, Nicolas Malin a écrit :On 13/04/2019 11:47, Jacques Le Roux wrote:I just tested, without surprise the trunk HEAD works with Java 11I did the same with 18.12, works fine Nicolas
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