Thanks, Ashish, for the details. The permission-related entities are already part of the framework itself, so we don’t need to move them separately into the framework.
Also, the Party entity belongs to the application layer, and I believe it’s not required for the core framework functionalities. Kind Regards, Deepak Dixit *www.hotwax.co <http://www.hotwax.co/>* On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 6:44 PM Ashish Vijaywargiya <[email protected]> wrote: > +1 Deepak. > > Thank you for sharing this email. > > We should definitely consider moving the applications folder out of the > OFBiz framework, similar to how we handle plugins. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > By decoupling applications from the framework, we can > provide a lighter and more modular foundation for building domain-specific > or microservice-based solutions. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Big +1 on the above lines. > > I tried setting up OFBiz without the “applications” and “plugins” folders > and performed the following operations on the Release24.09 branch: > > 1) Removed the applications and plugins folders. > > 2) Commented out the entries for the applications and plugins folders in > the component-load.xml file located under framework/base/config/. > > Ran the following command: > ./gradlew cleanAll loadAll -x test > (excluded test cases, as I have been facing some issues there) > > 3) The OFBiz build and data load operations completed successfully, and > OFBiz started without issues. > > 4) When I tried accessing WebTools, I encountered an error related to the > UserLogin entity’s dependency on Party. > > If we decide to move applications folder out of the framework then I think > we need to manage the framework with the User Permission Model. > For example, we could define a few entities—such as SecurityGroup, > UserLoginSecurityGroup, Party, SecurityPermission, and > SecurityGroupPermission - as framework-only entities or something > alternative to manage user permissions. Currently, these entities are > defined under the applications/party component. > > Anyway, these are just a few quick thoughts off the top of my head. > > Thank you, > Ashish Vijaywargiya > > > On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 at 17:32, Deepak Dixit <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Team, > > > > I would like to propose restructuring the OFBiz architecture by moving > core > > applications out of the main OFBiz framework — similar to how plugins are > > currently managed. > > > > This change would enable developers to build *custom ERP solutions* > without > > being tied to all the default applications and their associated 750+ > > database tables. By decoupling applications from the framework, we can > > provide a lighter and more modular foundation for building > domain-specific > > or microservice-based solutions. > > > > I strongly believe this approach will *significantly increase OFBiz > > adoption* and flexibility, allowing users to leverage the framework > purely > > as an enterprise-grade development platform rather than being constrained > > by bundled modules. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards > > > > -- > > > > Deepak Dixit > > >
