Re: svn commit: r772941 - in /ofbiz/trunk: framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/ framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/ specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/ specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ themes/flatgrey/includes/ themes

Fri, 08 May 2009 15:50:48 -0700

I had a look, in US seems to be 95 or 120 years in our case <<If a work of corporate authorship, 95 years from publication or 120 years from creation, whichever expires first>> What is less clear to me is if a release is a publication and if creation is begining with Undersun or Apache Era (I guess Apache Era)... Moreover things are not the same in EU, etc. 

Headache :/
I think you are right David. We should simplify our work and use automatic date copyright generation for all artifacts generated. If someone has a better understanding of all these things please chime in, I give up! 

Jacques

From: "Jacques Le Roux" <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>

From: "David E Jones" <david.jo...@hotwaxmedia.com>
Yes, we do need an end date (or not start date). Copyright protection has a limited time period, I believe something like 10 years for things like this. Because of that copyright holders have an incentive to update the copyright date as they release new editions.
In EU seems to be 70 years (IANAL), anyway I understand why people update the copyright now. But are we sure that a new edition allows to break the 10-70 years ?
Again, please keep in mind the difference between a copyright message for a specific file in the project, and a copyright message that represents that output generated by the system (which copyright is typically customized when the system is deployed, BTW).
I see the difference, but is this legal ? What does it means ? If OFBiz is still used in 2100 but not updated since 2050, this means that the generated outputs are still protected but not the software itself !?
The files changed here are for the copyright statements which cover generated output, so the substantial change issue is satisfied, and in fact it has nothing to do with it because each page generated is a unique work and not tied to a previous page. 

Are you sure we legally able to differentiate the work (OFBiz) and its 
generated outputs ?
In the headers for each file in the project what really should happen is that people update the copyright date when they make substantial changes to each file. Trying to remember that and keep track of it is not terribly likely and is a real pain as another thing on top of dozens already for people to remember. 

I have already forgotten, what were you speaking about ? ;p
The best solution for those headers (which again has nothing to do with this particular commit) is probably to do a review once a year of all files with more than X lines (probably 5-10) of changes, and then update the headers on those (if they haven't already been updated). 

Yes sounds like a good policy

Jacques


-David


On May 8, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Also I (we?) have not checked this rule http://www.law.cornell.edu/treaties/berne/overview.html . I just tried but did not find anything obvious... 
Some links
http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Copyright_duration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright#Duration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directive_on_harmonising_the_term_of_copyright_protection#Duration_of_protection

Finally I wonder now if we really need to put and end date there...!

Maybe David Goodenough can enlighten us ?

Jacques


From: "David E Jones" <jone...@apache.org>
Subject: Re: svn commit: r772941 - in /ofbiz/trunk: framework/common/ webcommon/includes/fo/ framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/ specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/ specialpurpose/ webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ themes/flatgrey/includes/ themes...
I think we should undo this change. The dynamic dates represented here do not copyright the files that the code is in, they copyright what the code produces, and that is constantly changing so the dynamic date is appropriate. 

-David


On May 8, 2009, at 5:15 AM, jler...@apache.org wrote:


Author: jleroux
Date: Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
New Revision: 772941

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=772941&view=rev
Log:
See http://markmail.org/message/znytl2y4inpmxbdo (David  Goodenough's  advice 
on copyright update)
extract : "My understanding of the Berne Convention rules for Copyright (which covers most jurisdictions - even the USA now), is that the copyright period only gets extended when the copyrighted item gets updated." 

Modified:
  ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-  footer.fo.ftl
  ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  EntityRefReport.fo.ftl
  ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/  footer.ftl
  ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ Footer.ftl
  ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl
  ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl

Modified: ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/ basic- 
footer.fo.ftl
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-footer.fo.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff 
= = = = = = = =  = = 
====================================================================
--- ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-  footer.fo.ftl 
(original)
+++ ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-  footer.fo.ftl 
Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
@@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
-->
<#escape x as x?xml>
       <fo:static-content flow-name="xsl-region-after" font- size="$ 
{(layoutSettings.footerFontSize)?default("8pt")}">
- <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid black">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation</fo:block> + <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid black">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation</ fo:block> 
           <fo:block text-align="center">${uiLabelMap.CommonPage}   
<fo:page-number/></fo:block>
       </fo:static-content>
</#escape>

Modified: ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  
EntityRefReport.fo.ftl
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/EntityRefReport.fo.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff 
= = = = = = = =  = = 
====================================================================
--- ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  
EntityRefReport.fo.ftl (original)
+++ ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/  
EntityRefReport.fo.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
@@ -70,7 +70,7 @@

       <#-- footer -->
       <fo:static-content flow-name="xsl-region-after">
- <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid black">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation</fo:block> + <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin solid black">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation</ fo:block> 
           <fo:block text-align="center">${uiLabelMap.CommonPage}   
<fo:page-number/></fo:block>
       </fo:static-content>


Modified: ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/  
includes/footer.ftl
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff 
= = = = = = = =  = = 
====================================================================
--- ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/ includes/ footer.ftl 
(original)
+++ ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/ includes/ footer.ftl 
Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
@@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
 </div>
 <br/>
 <div class="tabletext" align="center">
- <div class="tabletext">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp? string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org " class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div> + <div class="tabletext">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"; class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div> <div class="tabletext">Powered by <a href="http:// ofbiz.apache.org" class="tabletext" target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</ a></div> 
 </div>
 <br/>

Modified: ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/ includes/ Footer.ftl
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/Footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff 
= = = = = = = =  = = 
====================================================================
--- ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/  Footer.ftl 
(original)
+++ ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/  Footer.ftl Fri 
May  8 11:15:08 2009
@@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
</div>
<br/>
<div align="center">
- <div>Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"; class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div> + <div>Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"; class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org </a></div> 
   <div>Powered by <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org";   target="_blank">Apache 
OFBiz</a></div>
</div>
<br/>

Modified: ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
= = = = = = = =  = = 
====================================================================
--- ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl (original)
+++ ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl Fri May  8   11:15:08 2009
@@ -61,7 +61,7 @@
<p><a href="http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/";><img src="<@ofbizContentUrl>/images/vcss.gif</@ofbizContentUrl>" alt="Valid CSS!"/></a> <a href="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer";><img src="<@ofbizContentUrl>/images/valid-xhtml10.png</ @ofbizContentUrl>" alt="Valid XHTML 1.0!"/></a></p> 
 <p>
- ${uiLabelMap.CommonCopyright} (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp? string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org " target="_blank">www.apache.org</a><br /> + ${uiLabelMap.CommonCopyright} (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"; target="_blank">www.apache.org </a><br /> ${uiLabelMap.CommonPoweredBy} <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org"; target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a> <#include "../../../runtime/ svninfo.ftl" /></p> 
</div>
<#if layoutSettings.VT_FTR_JAVASCRIPT?has_content>

Modified: ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff
= = = = = = = =  = = 
====================================================================
--- ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl (original)
+++ ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl Fri May  8   11:15:08 2009
@@ -21,7 +21,7 @@

<div class="footer">
 <p align="center">
- <p>Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"; class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></p> + <p>Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org"; class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org </a></p> 
   <p>Powered by <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org";   target="_blank">Apache 
OFBiz</a></p>
 </p>
 <#if layoutSettings.VT_FTR_JAVASCRIPT?has_content>

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