My opinion is strong, I think it should be removed.

Things I don't like:
- as far as I can tell there has been no activity on the site, even though it 
has been almost 3 weeks since you first mentioned it
- you've received no positive comments from any other committers as far as I am 
aware
- the lack of activity on the site could appear to first time visitors to be a 
lack of activity on OFBiz
- I do not like _anyone_ modifying the home page without first discussing it, 
that page is very important to the project

Like I said, the most appropriate thing to do would be to get plenty of 
community activity around it and then discuss the possibility of making it an 
official resource.  No one here has the ability to unilaterally define to what 
is an official OFBiz resource without the consensus of the community as I'm 
sure recent events have proven.

Regards
Scott

On 30/03/2010, at 9:29 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:

> On Mar 30, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> 
>> Jacopo, Scott,
>> 
>> What kind of issues do you fear?
> 
> Actually no fear nor issues: just a bit of confusion. And also it seems to me 
> more natural to test a tool "internally" (i.e. in the dev list) and if we 
> like it then make it official and publish it.
> But I don't have a strong opinion, and if you think it is the right way to go 
> then for me it's fine.
> 
> Jacopo
> 
>> 
>> Jacques
>> 
>> Scott Gray wrote:
>>> I would prefer to keep it off the main page until the community proves that 
>>> it is something they want by using it, at that point
>>> we could consider making it an official resource.  I don't want the main 
>>> page to be a proving ground for ideas that may or may
>>> not work out.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> On 30/03/2010, at 8:13 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Actually I'd want to measure what happens from the main site. If there are 
>>>> nothing of few changes it will not be worth to create
>>>> something in OFBiz. In one month or so we should have an idea about that.
>>>> 
>>>> Jacques
>>>> 
>>>> From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>> Understood.
>>>>> What if, in this testing phase, we remove the reference from the official 
>>>>> page of the project and just point to it when needed
>>>>> in conversation in the lists?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jacopo
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 30, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Jacopo,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes that's why I was reluctant to do it. I don't expect much of it. As I 
>>>>>> said it's much a test than anything else. If it
>>>>>> proves useful we could develop something specific for that based on 
>>>>>> Survey. I think that Ruth is already using Survey on her
>>>>>> site.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> it seems interesting but I feel like we should try to avoid (whenever 
>>>>>>> possible) to base our community processes and workflows
>>>>>>> on resources that are not part of the ASF.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My 2 cents,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jacopo
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2010, at 12:45 PM, jler...@apache.org wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Author: jleroux
>>>>>>>> Date: Tue Mar 30 10:45:46 2010
>>>>>>>> New Revision: 929073
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=929073&view=rev
>>>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>>>> Testing http://ofbiz.ideascale.com/
>>>>>>>> We will see if it's of any value...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Modified:
>>>>>>>> ofbiz/site/index.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/site/index.html
>>>>>>>> URL: 
>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/site/index.html?rev=929073&r1=929072&r2=929073&view=diff
>>>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>>>> --- ofbiz/site/index.html (original)
>>>>>>>> +++ ofbiz/site/index.html Tue Mar 30 10:45:46 2010
>>>>>>>> @@ -278,10 +278,15 @@
>>>>>>>>             <li><a
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> href="https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/login/main?USERNAME=flexadmin&amp;PASSWORD=ofbiz&amp;JavaScriptEnabled=Y";>Management
>>>>>>>> Apps<br /><span>this demo is based on the current svn 
>>>>>>>> trunk</span></a></li> <li><a
>>>>>>>> href="http://demo-stable.ofbiz.apache.org/ecommerce/control/main";>9.04 
>>>>>>>> Front-End Store <br /><span>this demo is based on the
>>>>>>>> 9.04 Release Candidate branch.</span></a></li> <li><a
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> href="https://demo-stable.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/login/main?USERNAME=flexadmin&amp;PASSWORD=ofbiz&amp;JavaScriptEnabled=Y";>9.04
>>>>>>>> Management Apps<br /><span>this demo is based on the 9.04 Release 
>>>>>>>> Candidate branch.</span></a></li> -                <li><a
>>>>>>>> href="http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/oQBk";>All Known Demo 
>>>>>>>> Servers<br /><span> A list of all known trunk and release
>>>>>>>> demo servers.</span></a></li> +                <!-- li><a 
>>>>>>>> href="http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/oQBk";>All Known Demo
>>>>>>>> Servers<br /><span> A list of all known trunk and release demo 
>>>>>>>> servers.</span></a></li --> <!-- Removed for now - this has
>>>>>>>> not been duplicated on apache infrastructure --> <!--                
>>>>>>>> <li><a href="http://log.ofbiz.org/";>Daily Log Files<br
>>>>>>>> /><span>trunk and release demo log files.</span></a></li> --> </ul> + 
>>>>>>>> +            <h3>Share your ideas!</h3> +
>>>>>>>> <ul class="sidemenu"> +              <li><a 
>>>>>>>> href="http://ofbiz.ideascale.com/"; target="_blank">Vote or submit new
>>>>>>>> ideas...</a></li> +            </ul>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>         <h3>General Apache Software Foundation <a 
>>>>>>>> href="http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html";
>>>>>>>>     target="_blank">Sponsors</a></h3> </div> 
>> 
>> 
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