Before or after December 21?

-Adrian

On 6/15/2010 6:52 PM, Scott Gray wrote:
After a 2 second glance it looks interesting enough to bookmark.  Based on my 
current wish list I should be able to comment further in 2012 :-)

Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
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On 16/06/2010, at 1:18 PM, Ean Schuessler wrote:

I think you make a really great point here. JQuery is a utility not a
framework and when it comes to utility it really delivers the goods.

Looking back to Dojo, I still believe we need something to counter the
GWT-EXT "threat" because users continue to demand an "application" feel
when it comes to ERP. I find Vaadin (vaadin.com) very interesting, if
somewhat daunting in scale. It appears to offer the level of abstraction
necessary to integrate the screen and form widget systems and is under
the Apache License (which makes it very, very interesting). Has anyone
else looked seriously at Vaadin?

Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Looks like we have a good consensus around Jquery so far.

I must say that the main arugment for Dojo was its serious. It's a
real consistent framework with embedded widgets, not only an API. All
those third parties Jquery's widgets (and Prototypes's) are a bit
frightening. On the other hand when you want to upgrade to 1.4 you
find that it's not as serious as we thought, and I'm *very
disapointed* about that. And as those widgets are open source, it's
not as frightening as it 1st seems. For instance, we use a third party
calendar and we have already poked in (for layered lookups) without
issues.

At the time we decided to embed Doo and Prototype some pointed also
Jquery with good arguments [1] [2][3]. At this time we decided that
anyway we were not tied to any Ajax frameworks yet.

So yes, +1 for me also, especially now that Sascha wants to tackle it,
and I'm sure we will support his effort!

Thanks guys

Jacques
[1] Yoav Shapira in 2006: http://markmail.org/message/ftw7pjfrzxyxmsuz
[2] Ean in 2007 http://markmail.org/message/jf5qvxblvrbmtvae (and we
know now than when there is a dual licensing we can pick the one we
want, here MIT :o)
[3] Ean in 2007 http://markmail.org/message/vqjjtribdrulhbl3. When the
serious one is less serious than the other (demo in time). Dojo is
known to have documentation problems also... Found this link
http://www.ajaxdaddy.com/demo-dojo-fisheye.html
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