Adrian Crum wrote:
> On 6/16/2010 3:24 PM, Adam Heath wrote:
>> Adrian Crum wrote:
>>> On 6/16/2010 3:03 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>> On 6/16/2010 2:56 PM, Adam Heath wrote:
>>>>> Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/16/2010 2:03 PM, Adam Heath wrote:
>>>>>>> Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>>>> It sounds to me like the process is broken, not the data. Why not
>>>>>>>> specify a time zone along with a file name when
>>>>>>>> importing/exporting?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because you may have multiple timezones in the data.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Timezones are not actually part of the data. They are only utilized
>>>>>>> during display, by adjusting the raw time by some offset amount.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Time zones are used in parsing the XML date-time string into a
>>>>>> Timestamp, and in converting a Timestamp to XML.
>>>>>
>>>>> Timestamp to XML is correct; the timezone is in the output.
>>>>>
>>>>> XML to Timestamp is sometimes correct, but only if there is an actual
>>>>> timezone in the data.
>>>>>
>>>>> With no timezone, the actual parsed time(seconds since epoch +
>>>>> fractional) changes depending on the timezone the parsing took
>>>>> place in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Consider an import from xml, with no timezones, an xml dump, then a
>>>>> comparison of the 2 file sets. Ignoring any stamp date files, and
>>>>> fixing an ordering of rows, the files will not have the same values.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the xml parser/dumper is broken. Timestamps should not be
>>>>>>> utilized there, instead any time is GMT/UTC(offset 0).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That would solve your problem, but now you've made life hard on
>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>> else. If I want to create my own seed data, I have to convert all
>>>>>> of my
>>>>>> date-time data to GMT before entering it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just put a timezone on the value. I'm talking about values that
>>>>> currently have no timezone setting at all. If it has no timezone, the
>>>>> default is GMT, not whatever the local machine is set to.
>>>>
>>>> That would work. I was picturing a time-zone attribute in the entity
>>>> element.
>>>
>>> Oops, entity-engine-xml element.
>>
>> Both then?
>>
>> timezone-in-value wins.
>> then fallback on timezone in entity-engine-xml.
>> then GMT.
> 
> Time zone in value first, then time zone attribute in entity-engine-xml
> element, then server's time zone (to preserve backward compatibility).
> If you want to reference your data to GMT, then you can do that in the
> entity-engine-xml attribute.
> 
> It's flexible and it doesn't break any existing code.

After adding support for parsing all this data, I would still end up
changing the existing xml data files that ofbiz ships by default, however.

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