I wasn't speaking for you - I was commenting on your recent replies
and Jacopo's suggestion that the PMC has done something wrong to cause
them. As a member of the community and a participant in this
discussion, I reserve the right to do so.
We already know you would like to change the PMC and the roster of
committers - you said as much before. Personally, I don't want to see
anyone leave - we need as much help as possible. I enjoy working with
our community and I don't believe reducing its size will improve
anything. Scott's idea of reducing code would likely have better
success.
-Adrian
Quoting David E Jones <[email protected]>:
And, BTW, stop speaking for me. You're generally hostile when doing
so and trying to make me look bad. I've asked you this before as
you've done it many times. It's really childish behavior, so stop it.
I haven't been pulling many punches lately, and it seems like it may
be opening the way for discussion to happen that have been needed
for a LONG time. I might as throw out another controversial opinion:
the current PMC and committer groups need to be cut back a LOT. Some
are not active and won't mind leaving, others are somewhat active
and/or like their place in the project and wouldn't want to go. We
all probably have out opinions about who we'd like to see leave.
Guess what one of my opinions is?
-David
On Jan 27, 2011, at 8:22 AM, [email protected] wrote:
One thing that is important to remember is that there is a
difference between real obstacles to innovation and imagined ones.
David expressed frustration with the inability to innovate due to
push back from a few people who insist on backward compatibility.
That is a real obstacle. I am hopeful my appeal to compromise will
help us get past that one.
He is also nostalgic about the "good old days" when a handful of
committers were free to make any changes they wanted with little or
no discussion, or any consideration of the impact those changes
would have on the user base. He sees discussion, planning, and
finding a consensus as an obstacle to innovation. That obstacle is
imagined.
Like I said in a previous reply, there is nothing prohibiting David
from innovating in OFBiz - his ideas have been discussed before and
we all seemed to agree that they would be good things to do.
David's decision to give up on participating in this community has
nothing to do with a failure on the PMCs part.
-Adrian
Quoting Jacopo Cappellato <[email protected]>:
The primary goal of the PMC, and the community in general, should
be that of creating the perfect environment to facilitate
contributions from people like David, and limit/review/improve the
contributions from other less blessed contributors: it seems like
all our efforts are obtaining the exact opposite result.
