I am against this, especially if it comes as an order issued by Hans: he is not in the position of being aggressive or forcing us to do what it pleases him, he doesn't have the skills, the power, the merit to rule us (not to mention me); he did it in the past just because we let him do this. Now, if you and Hans feel that we should add a sentence about the trunk in the download page, please provide a valid motivation and a valid text, then start a vote: if the community will vote in favor of it I will be happy to accept and implement accordingly; otherwise I will not waste more of my time discussing this just to please Hans.
Jacopo On Apr 7, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com> >> This is not consensus, it is a compromise. > > Right > >> What is the purpose of mentioning that we have also a trunk (obvious) > > To relax each other positions (is that even English? :o). > Meant for users for are not acquainted with open source but still potential > OFBiz users > >> and what is the text that you would like to add there? > > <<Beside the releases you could also go the bleeding edge way > [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleeding_edge_technology] and check out the > trunk from OFBiz repository (Subversion)>> > Depending of the way we prefer to present it, could be also state of art > [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_the_art] because trunk is really not > that bleeding edge... > > Jacques > > >> Jacopo >> >> On Apr 7, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >> >>> Maybe, as a consensus, we can put a word about it and not a link? >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> From: "Hans Bakker" <mailingl...@antwebsystems.com> >>>> But Apache does not prohibit it? >>>> >>>> you want to be the best pupil in the Apache school? >>>> >>>> I still think this is wrong not to mention it. >>>> >>>> Hans >>>> >>>> On 04/07/2012 11:38 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: >>>>> Thank you Hans, >>>>> >>>>> the download page is intended to end users and we can't include there >>>>> links to download code that has not been officially approved; this was an >>>>> issue we had in the past and the ASF asked us to fix the page in the past. >>>>> For the trunk all the information is here: >>>>> >>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/OFBADMIN/ofbiz-source-repository-and-access.html >>>>> >>>>> (but that page will have to be converted to html and become "more >>>>> official"). >>>>> >>>>> Jacopo >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 7, 2012, at 6:33 AM, Hans Bakker wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This looks pretty good Jacopo, >>>>>> >>>>>> congratulations. >>>>>> >>>>>> However no mention of the latest trunk? That should be at least >>>>>> mentioned. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Hans >>>>>> >>>>>> On 04/07/2012 11:27 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: >>>>>>> I have now updated the OFBiz download page with a new section >>>>>>> containing the tentative release schedule for each release: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://ofbiz.apache.org/download.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Congratulations, we have now a plan (simple but effective and >>>>>>> achievable) and at least users now have a clear vision of the lifespan >>>>>>> of the release branch they are using and can plan in advance the >>>>>>> migration of their custom instance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacopo >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 27, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: "Jacopo Cappellato"<jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For me also 6 months seems long enough for the 1st official release. >>>>>>>>>> I'm just afraid: will we have not a lot of work to release so often >>>>>>>>>> (relases themself, annunciations, site update and especially demos >>>>>>>>>> updates) >>>>>>>>>> Anyway it seems we need to do it, maybe at the expense of other >>>>>>>>>> areas we are working on (Jiras, users support, etc.) >>>>>>>>> It will take time for sure but working on releases should be the main >>>>>>>>> goal of a community within the ASF: a release is the only trusted way >>>>>>>>> to publish the work we do: if we fix a bug but we do not issue a >>>>>>>>> release the users will not get real benefit. >>>>>>>> Sounds logical and good to me. It's time to go ahead regarding our way >>>>>>>> of doing releases. Some time ago, due to our change of way (less using >>>>>>>> trunk), I was afraid that committers activity would be lower, but it >>>>>>>> seems to be steady up... so far... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jacopo >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jacques >>
