Jacopo,
You removed the trunk download from the download page which was there
from the start without trying to get a consensus. Sure, if everybody
thinks that is way to go, than that is it. However i think seeing the
the history of OFBiz where the trunk was always very reliable and where
problems were always fixed within hours, the trunk is very usable and
people selecting the download page should be aware of it.
Actually the official Apache pages list this link on the central site.
http://projects.apache.org/projects/ofbiz.html
So it has nothing to do with Apache policies.
So why not on the OFBiz site? I think it should be there taking the
amount of changes that are applied to the trunk, showing the latest
version is following the latest internet developments.
Further what you are going to do with the 'what is new' page? If people
want to try it, where should they find the download link? And the trunk
demo, how do they find the download link here too?
So lets do a vote....and see if the removal of the link from the
download page was agreed or not.
Hans
On 04/07/2012 10:30 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
I am against this, especially if it comes as an order issued by Hans: he is not
in the position of being aggressive or forcing us to do what it pleases him, he
doesn't have the skills, the power, the merit to rule us (not to mention me);
he did it in the past just because we let him do this.
Now, if you and Hans feel that we should add a sentence about the trunk in the
download page, please provide a valid motivation and a valid text, then start a
vote: if the community will vote in favor of it I will be happy to accept and
implement accordingly; otherwise I will not waste more of my time discussing
this just to please Hans.
Jacopo
On Apr 7, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
From: "Jacopo Cappellato"<jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com>
This is not consensus, it is a compromise.
Right
What is the purpose of mentioning that we have also a trunk (obvious)
To relax each other positions (is that even English? :o).
Meant for users for are not acquainted with open source but still potential
OFBiz users
and what is the text that you would like to add there?
<<Beside the releases you could also go the bleeding edge way
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleeding_edge_technology] and check out the trunk from OFBiz
repository (Subversion)>>
Depending of the way we prefer to present it, could be also state of art
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_the_art] because trunk is really not
that bleeding edge...
Jacques
Jacopo
On Apr 7, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Maybe, as a consensus, we can put a word about it and not a link?
Jacques
From: "Hans Bakker"<mailingl...@antwebsystems.com>
But Apache does not prohibit it?
you want to be the best pupil in the Apache school?
I still think this is wrong not to mention it.
Hans
On 04/07/2012 11:38 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
Thank you Hans,
the download page is intended to end users and we can't include there links to
download code that has not been officially approved; this was an issue we had
in the past and the ASF asked us to fix the page in the past.
For the trunk all the information is here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/OFBADMIN/ofbiz-source-repository-and-access.html
(but that page will have to be converted to html and become "more official").
Jacopo
On Apr 7, 2012, at 6:33 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
This looks pretty good Jacopo,
congratulations.
However no mention of the latest trunk? That should be at least mentioned.
Regards,
Hans
On 04/07/2012 11:27 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
I have now updated the OFBiz download page with a new section containing the
tentative release schedule for each release:
http://ofbiz.apache.org/download.html
Congratulations, we have now a plan (simple but effective and achievable) and
at least users now have a clear vision of the lifespan of the release branch
they are using and can plan in advance the migration of their custom instance.
Jacopo
On Feb 27, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
From: "Jacopo Cappellato"<jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com>
On Feb 26, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
For me also 6 months seems long enough for the 1st official release. I'm just
afraid: will we have not a lot of work to release so often (relases themself,
annunciations, site update and especially demos updates)
Anyway it seems we need to do it, maybe at the expense of other areas we are
working on (Jiras, users support, etc.)
It will take time for sure but working on releases should be the main goal of a
community within the ASF: a release is the only trusted way to publish the work
we do: if we fix a bug but we do not issue a release the users will not get
real benefit.
Sounds logical and good to me. It's time to go ahead regarding our way of doing
releases. Some time ago, due to our change of way (less using trunk), I was
afraid that committers activity would be lower, but it seems to be steady up...
so far...
Jacques
Jacopo
Jacques