From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <jacopo.cappell...@gmail.com>
On Jul 7, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
You are certainly right and I agree with your point. But this should not be a
way for committers to escape their
responsabilities.
I think the truth is in the middle. I think that that some committers are not
doing their (volunteers) job for too long. I see
that
few contributors are doing much than most committers. Some contributions are
really good and fix neglected issues being there for
long. So this situation put the burden on the shoulders of few committers. Some
begin to loose the faith (ie less activity) and
if
this situation continues the project will loose its momentum. Also this
situation does not help preventing what you are
stigmatizing...
Being a committer means some responsability.
http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#committer-responsibilities
It's easy to check http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?path=%2Fofbiz
I don't think the list of committers
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/Apache+OFBiz+PMC+Members+and+Committers
is
in stone...
In fact it isn't... but at the moment the fact that there are dormant
committers doesn't worry me much: we can't enforce people to
work for the community and so this is out of our control.
Revoking commit rights could be considered as a cleanup task but as a very low
priority: inactive committers are not doing any
harm and having them in at least adds some possibility for a comeback.
The real problem is finding capable new committers and we all know it is not
easy; the proposal I have in mind (I will send it in
a separate email) may help in lowering the entry bar by asking (new or old)
committers to limit their commits to specific areas of
the project.
I agree, new *active* committers is the real issue. So committers are commiter
for life :o) (I refer to
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benevolent_Dictator_for_Life)
Jacques
Jacopo
I want to remind here that it's the PMC responsability to propose active and
effective contributors to become committers.
Note that I'm only concerned by the project good health, nothing else.
Jacques
From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com>
Interesting report... but there are chances that the way I read it is different
from yours: this report tells me that we have
introduced too many bugs or bad designs in the system and that a more careful
commit strategy with shared reviews and
discussions
about best ways to fix things (rather than accepting the patches as they are
contributed) would decrease, in the medium term,
the
distance.
We also need to mark as won't fix several tickets that are either incomplete or
address too specific use cases (without really
improving the system as a whole).
Jacopo
On Jul 7, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
This one should work for everyone, even not Jira logged in
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ConfigureReport.jspa?projectOrFilterId=filter-12321573&periodName=daily&daysprevious=90&cumulative=true&versionLabels=major&selectedProjectId=12310500&reportKey=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.reports%3Acreatedvsresolved-report&Next=Next
Jacques
From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com>
Hmmm.. I can't see the filter
Jacopo
On Jul 7, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
I don't know if other committersd follow this indicator. Personally it begins
to worry me a bit. It's based on one off my
shared filter ("OFBiz All"), I guess everybody with a Jira profile should get
the resut
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ConfigureReport.jspa?projectOrFilterId=filter-12311047&periodName=daily&daysprevious=90&cumulative=true&versionLabels=major&selectedProjectId=12310500&reportKey=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.reports%3Acreatedvsresolved-report&Next=Next
Last big effort was done by Jacopo in Dec., since then it keeps increasing...
Jacques
