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Le 03/03/2014 08:51, Hans Bakker a écrit :
I think that missing certificates are unprofessional and if it is not possible to add one (a wild card certificate on apache.org would do it, costs about 80$, or even two single ones can be had for 10$) then certainly I agree with Jacques a comment that it does not do any harm, would be useful.

Your proposition makes sense Hans. I already suggested that 5 years ago 
http://markmail.org/message/jtrovomwpqrl4xan
And I even made a request to infra: 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2849
I have used StartSSL since for my own needs and it works quite well.
But it's maybe not a money issue, rather that the infra team does not want to 
handle it... yearly...


You can discuss the way it is shown.


If someone wants to remove it, let's go. But the SSL certificate issues will 
remain...

Regards,
Hans

On 03/03/14 14:17, Adrian Crum wrote:
I agree with Jacopo. This change makes the site look unprofessional.

What makes look us unprofessional is not to have a SSL certificate. It's easy 
to forget once you have accepted the exceptions (trunk, stable, old).
Maybe the ASF and infra team policies in this regard is because we are a kind 
of an exception. I don't know if any other TLP has also demos like us?


Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com

On 3/2/2014 10:29 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
On Mar 2, 2014, at 7:47 PM, Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> 
wrote:

Maybe some not geeky users, not reading our MLs, could be frightened by the 
certificate warning.  So this simple sentence to reassure them.

In general, I would prefer to discuss and fix real issues rather than trying to imagine what they could be. Following the same pattern, in the past, I have seen pages in the wiki (e.g. the old mailing list pages) become very confusing and redundant because unnecessary information was added and added over time (often with not well written English sentences).


I don't see any relation with wiki pages here (which I agree could be better if all committers would make their duty), but yes having a SSL certificate(s?) there would be better in my opinion.

I don't see much cluttering adding this sentence.

The sentence:

"you can trust certificates"

doesn't mean anything and when you see it in the right bar menu it looks a bit weird (especially for users that don't click on the demo links and don't see the certificate warning); the OFBiz web site should be kept as clean as possible.


Yes the sentence should rather say "Please accept exceptions for SSL certificates if 
you get to the backend demos" but I found it a bit too long.
I agree that the OFBiz web site should be kept as clean as possible, so should 
be the demos.

What are the formatting issues? I did not create a CSS class to center the 
sentence, is that the problem?

Does it look right to you? That sentence is not aligned with the demo links and 
it is difficult to understand it referred to them.

I just centered it above the demo sections to make it clear it was related.
As I said we can remove it, if really we can't convince infra to handle a yearly certificate for our demos, maybe you have better ideas for demos to look more clean?

Once again <<L'enfer est pavé de bonnes intentions>>

Jacques


Jacopo



Jacques

Le 02/03/2014 18:12, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
Is this really needed?
I don't think the certificate warning is a major issue and we can easily explain in the user list just in case someone will complain... instead of cluttering the web site with unnecessary information (with some formatting issues).

Jacopo


On Mar 1, 2014, at 2:23 PM, jler...@apache.org wrote:

Author: jleroux
Date: Sat Mar  1 13:23:10 2014
New Revision: 1573170

URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1573170
Log:
Add a centered line in the demos section: <<Official demos (you can trust 
certificates)>>

Modified:
    ofbiz/site/index.html

Modified: ofbiz/site/index.html
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/site/index.html?rev=1573170&r1=1573169&r2=1573170&view=diff
==============================================================================
--- ofbiz/site/index.html (original)
+++ ofbiz/site/index.html Sat Mar  1 13:23:10 2014
@@ -225,9 +225,7 @@
                 <li><a href="source-repositories.html">Source Repository 
(SVN)</a></li>
                 <li><a href="https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ"; 
target="_blank">Issue Tracker (Jira)</a></li>
                 <li><a href="http://ci.apache.org/projects/ofbiz/site/javadocs/"; 
target="_blank">API Reference (Javadoc)</a></li>
- <!-- TODO: the format of the page is very old and some of the videos are unavailable: move the page to the Wiki and add the link to it to the documentation.html page
-                <li><a href="VideosConf.html">Conference Videos</a></li>
-                -->
+                <p align="center">Official demos (you can trust 
certificates)</p>
                 <li>11.04 Release Branch Demo (stable)
                     <ul>
                         <li><a 
href="http://demo-stable.ofbiz.apache.org/ecommerce/control/main";>Front-End 
Store</a></li>







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