The others participating in this project ( with and without customers are of no 
importance?

Regards,

Pierre

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> On 23 okt. 2014, at 18:04, Ron Wheeler <rwhee...@artifact-software.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 23/10/2014 11:33 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> 
>> Le 23/10/2014 17:11, Ron Wheeler a écrit :
>>> On 23/10/2014 10:39 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Le 23/10/2014 15:01, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
>>>>> On Oct 23, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Jacques Le Roux 
>>>>> <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I agree about the idea, but this applies only to releases or checked out 
>>>>>> code. Because there are no ways for users to enable/disable a component 
>>>>>> in demos, moreover demos are shared.
>>>>> Could you please explain the above sentence? I don't understand the 
>>>>> meaning of it.
>>>> 
>>>> Your idea of disabling some specialpurpose component can't be applied in 
>>>> R13.07 demo until we decide which component should be disabled in trunk.
>>>> In the meantime we should keep the current state (ie all specialpurpose 
>>>> components present in trunk should be available in R13.07 demo)
>>> 
>>> If they are in the demo they should be in the release.
>> 
>> Actually the specialpurpose components are in the R13.07 demos because they 
>> can be there. But they are not maintained in the R13.07 branch (but 
>> ecommerce) only in trunk.
>> 
>>> As you can guess, I am troubled about the relation between releases and the 
>>> trunk and demos in OFBiz.
>> 
>> Would you prefer to not have the specialpurpose components in R13.07 demo?
>> 
>>> It is a bit odd and certainly goes against most product release strategies 
>>> wherein the current release is the recommended download and carries 
>>> whatever warranty that the project offers in terms of testing and rapidity 
>>> of bug fixes and the trunk is usually called something that 
>>> includes"nightly build" and "unstable" in the name and comes with no 
>>> warranty and a warning about using it at your own risk.
>>> 
>>> Demos should be of the latest release and should be stable and have a fixed 
>>> functionality that can be documented in the wiki and marketing pages.
>> 
>> They are, just that they use the branch instead of the packaged releases.  
>> For R13.07 (current stable) there is an exception, because I thought it was 
>> better to have the specialpurpose components available. This is what Jacopo 
>> contests
>> 
>>> It could be maintained by the documentation team once it is set up since it 
>>> should not require any technical skills to keep working and fed with demo 
>>> data.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If the developers need a test site based on the nightly build, they should 
>>> be free to set up as many combinations of configurations as they require 
>>> and can support  to be sure that the trunk still works but this should not 
>>> be the public demo or even be called a "demo".
>> 
>> It's also, there are no official mention of the trunk demo, it's only a 
>> developers thing.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Of course, this only works if a release is actually a Release and the team 
>>> stands behind it and uses it when establishing new customers.
>> 
>> We have no customers, only users
> 
> The PMC members have the customers to whom I was referring.
> 
>> 
>> Jacques
>> 
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have an opinion about the gap between 13.07.01 and what the 
>>> main SI companies are getting from using the trunk instead.
>>> Would a monthly release pattern reduce this gap to a point where it would 
>>> be possible to use the official Release as the actual release?
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I hope it's more clear
>>>> 
>>>> Jacques
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jacopo
> 
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