Hi All, Gavin, Starting a new thread. For the build up, see http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/pf7lnzjwow4g4igj?q=passport+oauth2+order:date-forward
Our current homepage states as the value proposition the following: Apache OFBiz™ is an open source product for the automation of enterprise processes that includes framework components and business applications for ERP (Enterprise Resource Planning), CRM (Customer Relationship Management), E-Business / E-Commerce, SCM (Supply Chain Management), MRP (Manufacturing Resource Planning), MMS/EAM (Maintenance Management System/Enterprise Asset Management), POS (Point Of Sale). That is the starting point of the value proposition, and it includes most applications (but not all in special purpose). The webpage also states: Use it out-of-the-box, customize it or use it as a framework to implement your most challenging business needs. Meaning that it can be adjusted to be part of whatever your value proposition is. Gavin, you asked what it would that value proposition is in the hypothetical scenario of it being used in combination of everything coming from third parties (see below). You should ask that the proponents of a framework only solution. They are better at it, I surmise. But what is your answer ( your value proposition of OFBiz), when a potential user comes to you and says: 'I want OFBiz for my manufacturing setup and I don't want any excess'.? And I would suspect it to be: great, that is feasible, but when you download it, you get, +humanres + ecommerce (and more) And what is when someone comes to you and told you: 'I want to do project mgt, and I want it integrated with my fico and hr solutions. That answer would be: Excellent, but when you download it, you get that + accounting + humanres + manufacturing + 3rd party payment integration solutions + 3rd party shipment integration solutions + ecommerce (plus a whole lot more) And then you'll probably say: but it can all be removed. So that potential customer might, and probably will think: so if I don't want parts I don't need, I am going to pay through the nose to get it removed. And if I leave it in, who knows what it will do. Yes there are parts that a good value proposition can't do without (framework components, some components in applications). The rest are just layer on top of the base of the cake. Options that makes the OFBiz Value Proposition the right one for any specific potential adopter. I don't define what the 'OFBiz Value Proposition' is. We all do that. And what is it? What is yours? Best regards, Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* Services & Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail & Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Jacques Le Roux < jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: > Le 22/03/2015 08:46, Gavin Mabie a écrit : > >> Hi Pierre >> >> If you use a 3rd party crm solution you wouldn't use the sfa application. >> >>> If you use a 3rd party HRM solution, you wouldn't use humanres. >>> >> >> Following this line of thinking, let's consider this ridiculous >> hypothetical scenario: >> >> - 3rd Party Accounting App; >> - 3rd Party HR; >> - 3rd Party SFA; >> - 3rd Party Catalog Management; >> - 3rd Party CMS; >> - etc >> >> What would be Ofbiz's Value Proposition in this case? There are core >> applications that users expect to find in an ERP OOTB. >> > > Good point Gavin :D > > Jacques > >
