Hi Jacques,

I think there should be an added value beyond "because it used to be
there". What is the purpose of keeping it with disclaimers in your opinion?

Regards,

Taher Alkhateeb

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 7:19 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:

> Hi Taher,
>
> I'd not be against (still in the lean way), but should we not keep at
> least "java -jar build/libs/ofbiz.jar ?" (with disclaimer words of
> precaution)?
>
> What are other opinions?
>
> Jacques
>
>
>
> Le 19/08/2016 à 17:50, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
>
>> Hi Jacques,
>>
>> On a quick skim through, I highly recommend removing completely any traces
>> of "java -jar". The reason for my recommendation is that gradle automates
>> the build process. Exposing end-users to how things happen means exposing
>> them to implementation details. This has the following negative outcomes:
>>
>> - Users need to be aware of JVM arguments to properly execute commands
>> - Changes we might decide to do in the future would break existing systems
>> because users are exposed to the details of how the system is constructed.
>> - The ofbiz.jar which is constructed from gradle has hardcoded library
>> paths that depend on each user's computer setup. Any changes to the setup
>> would not be reflected correctly using raw java commands. This would
>> probably confuse people a lot and debugging would be a pain. If you let
>> Gradle take over the whole thing then you minimize the confusion.
>> - The syntax for java -jar is more complex
>>
>> So my recommendation is to replace every occurence of java -jar with
>> ./gradlew "ofbiz --whatever-commands-here".
>>
>> Taher Alkhateeb
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 6:40 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
>> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have done some wiki documentation update with respect to Gradle
>>> recently. Today I got issues with Confluence which broke my working flow
>>> on
>>> the Apache OFBiz Technical Production Setup Guide <
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+
>>> OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide> page more than once. So I'd
>>> appreciate reviews, not only on this page but on all recently changed
>>> pages. If you follow Confluence changes, you should be aware of them.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

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