Jacopo,

I agree about releasing more often. Then we need to prepare things better. Just 
few words, I have no ideas how to yet.

You suggest "to implement the best solution". As I said below I see only 2. I don't expect Kantega will take the burden of pushing their jar to jcenter, even less on each modification, even if I now expect very few, if any. They even did not care to answer me!

I don't like much the idea of maintaining a fork, who would do it? I prefer to automate it, and Gradle with JitPackIt can. My last proposition (answer to Taher) resolves the notsoserial problem.

If we remove the jar and all the rest, I fear the notsoserial effort will be definitely thrown away, exposing our "naive" users at the risk of using RMI or a vulnerable external classes.

BTW, when you say "We could always bundle it in another release soon" do you 
expect to freeze and release R16 very soon?

Jacques


Le 08/09/2016 à 08:47, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
I would feel more comfortable in releasing without it, and then work on the
proposed solutions with more time in order to implement the best solution.
We could always bundle it in another release soon: in fact with all the
activity in the project, we should consider releasing more often.

Jacopo



On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:

OK wait! I think we skipped a step: access the jar from an accessible repo.

I see 2 solutions:

1. Push ourselves the notsoserial jar in jcenter => updating a fork now
and then, though notsoserial will not need much changes now
2. Use https://jitpack.io/

I prefer 2, though I have still to

  * resolve the notsoserial.jar path in my hasty proposition below
  * use|master-SNAPSHOT| instead of last hash (to not break on changes)
which may need to refresh dependencies (did not investigate yet:
    https://jitpack.io/docs/#snapshots)

Index: build.gradle
===================================================================
--- build.gradle    (revision 1759557)
+++ build.gradle    (working copy)
@@ -32,7 +32,7 @@

  // java settings
  def jvmArguments = ['-Xms128M', '-Xmx1024M',
- "-javaagent:${rootDir}/tools/security/notsoserial/notsoseria
l-1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar",
+ "-javaagent:C:/Users/Jacques/.gradle/caches/modules-2/files-
2.1/com.github.kantega/notsoserial/f2baaaa/3646e12f5ce4713f9
ad2aa027e3fec81097fcd93/notsoserial-f2baaaa.jar",
"-Dnotsoserial.whitelist=${rootDir}/tools/security/notsoserial/empty.txt",
"-Dnotsoserial.dryrun=${rootDir}/tools/security/notsoserial/
is-deserialized.txt",
"-Dnotsoserial.trace=${rootDir}/tools/security/notsoserial/
deserialize-trace.txt"]
@@ -52,6 +52,7 @@
  allprojects {
      repositories{
          jcenter()
+        maven { url "https://jitpack.io"; }
      }
  }

@@ -119,6 +120,7 @@
      compile 'org.zapodot:jackson-databind-java-optional:2.4.2'
      compile 'oro:oro:2.0.8'
      compile 'wsdl4j:wsdl4j:1.6.2'
+    compile 'com.github.kantega:notsoserial:f2baaaa'

      // general framework runtime libs
      runtime 'de.odysseus.juel:juel-spi:2.2.7'

I think you get the idea, it works w/o any other modifications, what to
you think?

Jacques



Le 07/09/2016 à 22:37, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

OK, since we have no issues OOTB that can be done.

But IMO documenting the whole thing in our nososerial readme.txt is not
enough. We need to make that more prominent. Not sure how yet...

Jacques


Le 07/09/2016 à 20:09, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :

Scratch that, actually only the -D arguments are ignored, we must remove
the -javaagent argument because it's not a classpath argument and would
crash the VM

But for consistency's sake, let's remove them all for now. So simply we
apply:

Index: build.gradle
===================================================================
--- build.gradle        (revision 1759596)
+++ build.gradle        (working copy)
@@ -31,11 +31,7 @@
   ext.os = System.getProperty('os.name').toLowerCase()

   // java settings
-def jvmArguments = ['-Xms128M', '-Xmx1024M',
-
"-javaagent:${rootDir}/tools/security/notsoserial/notsoseria
l-1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar",
-
"-Dnotsoserial.whitelist=${rootDir}/tools/security/notsoseri
al/empty.txt",
-
"-Dnotsoserial.dryrun=${rootDir}/tools/security/notsoserial/
is-deserialized.txt",
-
"-Dnotsoserial.trace=${rootDir}/tools/security/notsoserial/
deserialize-trace.txt"]
+def jvmArguments = ['-Xms128M', '-Xmx1024M']
   ext.ofbizMainClass = 'org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.Start'
   javadoc.failOnError = false
   sourceCompatibility = '1.8'

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 9:04 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:

OK Cool, if the JVM arguments are simply ignored, then I will proceed
with
an addition in the readme and remove the jar, simple

Jacques



Le 07/09/2016 à 17:16, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :

Thank you Jacques and Taher.
So it seems we can move on and temporarily remove the jar.

Jacopo


On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <
slidingfilame...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi Jacques,

First of all the ofbizSecure task is gone instead everything calls the
correct jvm arguments by default to fetch notsoserial.

The work to remove notsoserial is almost nothing. You just to remove a
few
jvm args and that's it. Even if you don't remove the jvm args nothing
happens because it will just ignore it as missing from the classpath.

Taher Alkhateeb

On Sep 7, 2016 5:48 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
wrote:

Huho, I was too fast on this. Currently the Gradle "ofbizSecure" tasks

depends on the notsoserial-1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar

So this would need more work and w/o answers from them I suspect they

will
not publish the jar.
Now it's a serious security but not OOTB. So I see 2 possibilities.

1. Ask the ASF for a derogation (after all it's a Java issue not an
OFBiz
one)
2. Do what I said before AND change the Gradle "ofbizSecure" tasks

Opinions?

Jacques


Le 07/09/2016 à 14:01, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :

Yes I see no problems with that. I just need to add directions for
users

before. I'll then remove the jars... very soon...

Jacques


Le 07/09/2016 à 13:09, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :

Jacques, any news from notsoserial?

If not, I think we can proceed by (temporarily) removing the jars
until
they will publish the jar.

Regards,

Jacopo

On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Jacques Le Roux <
jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:

Yes that's what I proposed also, I will try that before the worse

solution
as Taher called them, would you help?

Jacques



Le 20/08/2016 à 08:32, Pierre Smits a écrit :

Hi Jacques,

Why not try to convince the people behind notsoserial to have them
push
the
library to maven central and/or jpublish? In stead of this community
doing
the work?

Best regards,


Pierre Smits

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