It's confusing to have multiple threads just because your email client is mixing things. We already participated in the other thread.
On Feb 12, 2017 8:50 PM, "Jacques Le Roux" <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: > In (my) Thunderbird it was buried in the previous thread so I "created a > clean new thread to have it more prominent." > > We should rather focus on the questions... > > Jacques > > > Le 12/02/2017 à 18:42, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit : > >> Why did you start a new thread? What's wrong with the other thread? >> >> On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Jacques Le Roux < >> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks Taher, >>> >>> I create a clean new thread to have it more prominent. >>> >>> This is really what needs to be discussed indeed. >>> >>> Are we sure that's what we want for plugins? >>> >>> Will they not be disregarded by committers? >>> >>> Will plugins follow the framework trend? >>> >>> This is a very important community decision. >>> I hope everybody will (try to) understand the consequences and >>> participate >>> to this discussion, before it will be too late... >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> >>> Le 12/02/2017 à 13:32, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit : >>> >>> Let's take a look at the big picture for a moment before we decide. We >>>> have >>>> broken OFBiz into essentially two products: framework and plugins. >>>> >>>> Why did we break it up? Why did we go through the trouble of creating >>>> two >>>> different repositories? I hope the answer is something like "because it >>>> is >>>> too big" or "because it carried a lot of non-essential functionality >>>> around" >>>> >>>> So breaking up the project brings the advantage of not having to _worry >>>> about everything_ on each and every commit. These are two projects with >>>> two >>>> release cycles and they don't need to be developed together >>>> simultaneously. >>>> People can specialize and focus on different areas. >>>> >>>> The whole idea of breaking the system up and then using gradle's plugin >>>> API >>>> for OFBiz is to remove the coupling between the two projects. If we >>>> introduce svn externals then all we achieve is create two repositories >>>> only to merge them again. Why! that's pointless! >>>> >>>> Two products means two buildbot scripts, two releases, two development >>>> cycles, two different things! >>>> >>>> So to achieve true separation and decoupling, I suggest to avoid any >>>> hacks >>>> like svn externals. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>>> This discussion already happened at OFBIZ-9182, but only between Taher, >>>>> Nicolas and I. >>>>> >>>>> The question is simple, below reflects it, and the subject summarises >>>>> it. >>>>> >>>>> So what are your thoughts and opinions? >>>>> >>>>> Also when answering I guess we can remove '(was Re: Proposal to >>>>> create a >>>>> separate svn repository for the OFBiz official plugins)' from the >>>>> subject >>>>> (I was just "lazy" here) >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Le 12/02/2017 à 11:22, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely I hardly see the benefit, but I see the disadvantages when I >>>>> >>>>>> remember what happened with R13.07. I mean how and by who will be >>>>>> maintained the OOTB plugins? >>>>>> >>>>>> I think this should be more discussed, and maybe voted, here >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 12/02/2017 à 11:18, Deepak Dixit a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Jacques, >>>>>> >>>>>>> We can add gradle task to pull all plugins from remote. As we are >>>>>>> de-coupling plugins from core so I think its good idea to keep them >>>>>>> separate. If any committer or developer want he can use gradle task >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> same. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks & Regards >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Deepak Dixit >>>>>>> www.hotwaxsystems.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>>>>> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes this is the idea, why should we not? How else committers will >>>>>>> easily >>>>>>> >>>>>>> maintain the plugins? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le 12/02/2017 à 10:25, Deepak Dixit a écrit : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Jacques, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think if wesvn:external on trunk, then it will always checkout >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> plugins with trunk >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Deepak Dixit >>>>>>>>> www.hotwaxsystems.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Deepak Dixit < >>>>>>>>> deepak.di...@hotwaxsystems.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> >
