Will some attributes be kept in the config file and in the database? What reason of that moving?
2013/4/24 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> > network related staff can be moved to DB only if config will be available > via REST (probably in 3.0 we can bypass this) > > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > I'll vote for moving everything into DB > > Appdisplay can be removed (in 3.0 in favor of CSS) > > AvailableCamResolutions can be new tables like room types > > > > Client reload will still be necessary to renew the values (in 2.1.X) > > > > currentappname > > currentappnameurl > > can be dropped IMHO > > other should be reviewed > > > > Who is going to implement this? > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko <akhor...@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > >> We also have some parameters which can't be moved to database in current > >> implementation, for example "appdisplay", "availableCameraResolutions". > In > >> my opinion all other parameters could be moved to database as needed. > >> > >> > >> 2013/4/24 Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com> > >> > >> > I mostly agree. > >> > > >> > Maybe we should have several parameter groups - eg system parameters, > >> those > >> > to change with care > >> > On Apr 24, 2013 2:32 PM, "seba.wag...@gmail.com" < > seba.wag...@gmail.com > >> > > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > If that param is part of the Administration > Configuration I would > >> > propose > >> > > to have a general review which of those parameters of the > config.xml. > >> > > Maybe even more of them should be moved to the database then. > >> > > > >> > > This is our current client side config file: > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openmeetings/trunk/singlewebapp/WebContent/openmeetings/config.xml?view=co&content-type=text%2Fplain > >> > > > >> > > Candidates the can be moved to the database are ... all ? > >> > > > >> > > I don't see a lot of sense if trying to follow two different > >> approaches > >> > and > >> > > having multiple places for config's. > >> > > It will just lead to feedback that was given in the past like > >> > "OpenMeetings > >> > > configuration is spread around a dozen of files" > >> > > > >> > > Seems like a majority of people would prefer a database solution. > >> > > > >> > > So one potential fix or idea would be for example to create the > >> > config.xml > >> > > via a Servlet dynamically. > >> > > > >> > > That way the client can have still a very easy way of loading the > >> config > >> > > file by simply parsing it. > >> > > And you can generate the config.xml dynamically on server side based > >> on > >> > > database values. > >> > > > >> > > From that point of view _any_ value of the config.xml could > >> immediately > >> > > move to the database. > >> > > We just have to keep in mind that this config.xml can be retrieved > >> > > anonymously, so it makes no sense to put any security sensible data > >> into > >> > > it. > >> > > But it would for example simplify some of our current docs as there > >> is no > >> > > separated configuration for client and server needed, like > potentially > >> > the > >> > > port configuration. > >> > > > >> > > Would do folks think about that idea? > >> > > > >> > > Sebastian > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > 2013/4/24 Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com> > >> > > > >> > > > @Sebastian > >> > > > As for hardware, we used jabra. > >> > > > On Apr 24, 2013 12:54 PM, "Vasya" <va...@unipro.ru> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > +1 for database > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Thanks, > >> > > > > Vasiliy > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On 24.04.2013 14:49, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> I would prefer Admin->configuration since it is migrated while > OM > >> > > > upgrades > >> > > > >> But config.xml requires less code changes :) > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 2:40 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < > >> > > > >> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> The basic rule so far was to put client side/ UI / layout > >> settings > >> > in > >> > > > the > >> > > > >>> config.xml. > >> > > > >>> The config.xml is parsed by both SWFs (SWF8 and SWF10) on > >> startup > >> > one > >> > > > >>> time. > >> > > > >>> So it is also rather easy compared to have a database value > that > >> > then > >> > > > has > >> > > > >>> to be somehow loaded to the client. > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> Sebastian > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> 2013/4/24 Artyom Horuzhenko <akhor...@gmail.com> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> What kind of solution would be better for switching codecs, > >> AEC, > >> > EM > >> > > > and > >> > > > >>>> echo suppression: using config.xml or "Configuration" in the > >> > > > >>>> "Administration" menu? > >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>> 2013/4/23 Joseph Karwat <jkar...@jellnet.com> > >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>> IMHO. When something does not work well users generally ask > >> for > >> > > help > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>> from > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>>> their service provider. In our shop our staff explains AEC > >> issues > >> > > to > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>> end > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>>> users and works with them to resolve the issue. Having AEC > as > >> an > >> > > easy > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>> to > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>>> enable/disable user option, is very helpful in providing the > >> type > >> > of > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>> end > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>>> user support that will enable widespread adoption of OM. > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> I'd be pleased to work with the group to formally test AEC > and > >> > > > resolve > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>> this > >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>>> issue. > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> Joseph Karwat | 415-462-0263 | JellVideo | www.jellnet.com| > >> > > > >>>>> JELL NETWORKS, INC. > >> > > > >>>>> Enterprise Video Collaboration Solutions > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> Click Here to Register for your JellVideo Collaboration > >> Account > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >> > > > >>>>> From: seba.wag...@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com] > >> > > > >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 1:53 AM > >> > > > >>>>> To: dev > >> > > > >>>>> Subject: Re: AEC in the new release > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> IMHO having yet another checkbox where the user can decide > to > >> > > enable > >> > > > or > >> > > > >>>>> disable AEC can be only an additional thing on top of a > >> general > >> > > > system > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>> wide > >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>>> configuration. > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> The problem with this is for example that the average user > >> does > >> > not > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>> even > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>>> know what AEC means. > >> > > > >>>>> Or what is the difference between hardware echo cancellation > >> and > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>> software > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>>> echo cancellation ?! > >> > > > >>>>> So what would be the benefit for him in having a checkbox > >> tagged > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>> "enabled > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>>> AEC" ? > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> One of the concerns people have against OpenMeetings is its > >> > > > complexity. > >> > > > >>>>> They just want to conference and not bother around with a > lot > >> of > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>> options. > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>>> I would also not disable the AEC feature by default as long > as > >> > there > >> > > > is > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>> no > >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>>> concrete use-case where AEC (or enhancedMicro mode) leads to > >> an > >> > > > issue. > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> Same for h264. There was a discussion that included h264 a > >> couple > >> > > of > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>> weeks > >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>>> ago: > >> > > > >>>>> http://markmail.org/message/**fctg6eo5qf5hhcaa< > >> > > > http://markmail.org/message/fctg6eo5qf5hhcaa> > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> The consens was: > >> > > > >>>>> - The amount of CPU that our clients needed more was not > >> > > > measurable. > >> > > > >>>>> - There is no concrete use case where enabling or > disabling > >> > h264 > >> > > > >>>>> would > >> > > > >>>>> improve anything I agree that having a config for the Video > >> > codec, > >> > > > same > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>> as > >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>>> the Microphone Mode, would be nice. > >> > > > >>>>> But changing any defaults now back and forth without > concrete > >> use > >> > > > cases > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>> and > >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>>> some kind of test plan does not make a lot of sense to me. > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> So what I would propose is: > >> > > > >>>>> - Make Microphone and VideoCodec configurable and > >> documentate > >> > > this > >> > > > >>>>> - Set up a concrete test plan and communicate that through > >> our > >> > > > >>>>> mailing > >> > > > >>>>> lists. > >> > > > >>>>> Based on the feedback we might then discuss changing some > >> > defaults. > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> Sebastian > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> 2013/4/23 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> My previous comment was regarding video codec Auto > selecting > >> > h264 > >> > > > >>>>>> based on SIP setting is not a good idea IMHO > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko < > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> akhor...@gmail.com > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>>> wrote: > >> > > > >>>>>>> Usually (for example, in Linphone) echo cancellation > option > >> is > >> > > > >>>>>>> available for every user. In my opinion it would be better > >> to > >> > > allow > >> > > > >>>>>>> users to decide use echo cancellation or not because its > >> > > efficiency > >> > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>> depends on hardware. > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>> 2013/4/23 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> > >> > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>> Maybe it is better to make it configurable somehow? > >> config.xml > >> > > is > >> > > > >>>>>>>> good candidate IMHO > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko > >> > > > >>>>>>>> <akhor...@gmail.com > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> Hello, > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> I suppose using h264 would be necessary only in SIP > rooms, > >> > for > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> all > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> other > >> > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> rooms - codec which used before (h263?). It avoids any > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> suspections > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> about > >> > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> h264 issues and increses performance. I'm also going to > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> implement > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> switching > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> microphone mode in the audio/video test dialog. Is there > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> anybody > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>>> who disagree with this idea? > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> 2013/4/23 Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> That would be great! > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2013 5:36 AM, "Maxim Solodovnik" > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> <solomax...@gmail.com> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> @Alexei this definitely can be done in realtime, BUT > ... > >> :) > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The setting affects Working microphone so it is > >> impossible > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> ON/OFF > >> > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> it > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> while speaking :( > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The only option I can see is to add dropdown control > to > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> testSetupDialog > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> (the one with choose camera and test recording). So we > can > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> have > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> something > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> like: > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 1) default system setting (can be moved to > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Admin->configuration > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> to > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>> avoid > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> rewriting it after each upgrade) > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 2) per user setting stored in LocalData (like > >> rememberLogin > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> default > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>> cam/mic > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> etc.) > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> using above scheme user can change the setting while > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> entering the > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> room > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> or > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> "re-sync" audio/video > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> What do you think? > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:24 AM, Joseph Karwat < > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> jkar...@jellnet.com> > >> > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> We tested AEC out-of-the-box. We just installed and > >> ran a > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> meeting > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>> in > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> OM2.1- Litle or no echo. We then, using the exact same > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> configuration, > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> logged in to an OM2.0 server and ran a meeting. We > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> experienced > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> substantial > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> echo. We were both running a PC with Flash echo > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> cancellation on > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> but > >> > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> no > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> hardware echo cancelation. > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also for OM2.1 Where do I set the buffer lenghth? > Are > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> there > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> any > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>> other > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> parameters/options I should know about? > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Joseph Karwat | CEO | 415-462-0263 | JellVideo | > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> www.jellnet.com| > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>> JELL NETWORKS, INC. > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Enterprise Video Collaboration Solutions > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Click Here to Register for your JellVideo > Collaboration > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Account > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Alexei Fedotov [mailto:alexei.fedotov@gmail. > >> **com< > >> > > > alexei.fedo...@gmail.com> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> ] > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 12:49 PM > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@openmeetings.apache.org > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: AEC in the new release > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Joseph, which devices show improvement? Which buffer > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> length did > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> you > >> > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> use? > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I like the suggestion - Maxim, how is it possible to > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> configure > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> AEC > >> > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> in > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> realtime? > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 22, 2013 11:30 PM, "Joseph Karwat" > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> <jkar...@jellnet.com > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> We have a test OM2.1 server installed at AWS running > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Unbuntu > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 12.04. > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> We tested AEC this morning for the first time and it > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> did > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>>> seem > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > >> > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> make > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> the audio work very well. Little if no echo. We still > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> need > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>> test > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> under a wide range of scenarios, but we are encouraged > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> by the performance this morning. > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you do make it a configurable setting. It should > be > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> an > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> option > >> > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> when > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> setting up the room or allow the individual user to > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> enable/disabe > >> > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> AEC > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> when in a conference room. > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Making it a system-wide configuration option will > >> delay > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> testing > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>> and > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> adoption. > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> We will be conducting further testing of AEC over > the > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> next > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> few > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>> days > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> and will report back with our findings. Anyone wishing > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> participate > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> in our AEC testing is encouraged to contact me. > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Joseph Karwat |415-462-0263 | JellVideo | > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jellnet.com | > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> JELL > >> > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> NETWORKS, INC. > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Enterprise Video Collaboration Solutions > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Click Here to Register for your JellVideo > >> Collaboration > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Account > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Alexei Fedotov [mailto:alexei.fedotov@gmail. > >> **com< > >> > > > alexei.fedo...@gmail.com> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ] > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 12:49 AM > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev; u...@openmeetings.apache.org > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: AEC in the new release > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> There are no answers. My point here is that we can > be > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 100% > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> sure > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>> that > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> today AEC does not work as expected, and provides > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> distinctive > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and > >> > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> high > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> quality echo in 100% of situations when users use > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> separate > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> dynamic > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> and > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> microphone systems. > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The new thing is AEC mechanism sometimes meddles > with > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> hardware > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>> echo > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> cancellation support providing temporary sound outages. > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> It > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> also > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>> provides visible de-synchronization between sound and > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> video > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> channels. > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> If someone has a different experience, please, speak > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> up. > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>>> So I have two ideas to speak of. 1. Disable AEC in > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> openmeetings > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>> releases by default. It takes a simple configuration > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> change > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>> enable > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> it. 2. Later understand when AEC really works, and fix > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> it. > >> > > > >>>> > >> > > > >>>>> Folks, please again let me know if you disagree and > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> have > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>>> beneficial > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>> AEC experience. > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, Alexei > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Fedotov > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> / > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>> Алексей > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Федотов, http://dataved.ru/ > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> +7 916 562 8095 > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Alexei Fedotov > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello guys, > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How AEC (acoustic echo cancellation) works for you > in > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> new > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>> release? > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone share usage experience? > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > Alexei > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Fedotov > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>> / > >> > > > >>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> Алексей Федотов, http://dataved.ru/ > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +7 916 562 8095 > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> WBR > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> -- > >> > > > >>>>>>>> WBR > >> > > > >>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>> -- > >> > > > >>>>>> WBR > >> > > > >>>>>> Maxim aka solomax > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> -- > >> > > > >>>>> Sebastian Wagner > >> > > > >>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_**lock < > >> > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> > > > > > >> > > > >>>>> http://www.webbase-design.de > >> > > > >>>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.**com < > >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> > > > > >> > > > >>>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>>>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> -- > >> > > > >>> Sebastian Wagner > >> > > > >>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_**lock < > >> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> > > > > >> > > > >>> http://www.webbase-design.de > >> > > > >>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.**com < > >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> > > > >> > > > >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > Sebastian Wagner > >> > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> > > http://www.webbase-design.de > >> > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> > > seba.wag...@gmail.com > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > WBR > > Maxim aka solomax > > > > > > -- > WBR > Maxim aka solomax >
