The VOTE is closed. RC1 will NOT be released.
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 6:53 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com <seba.wag...@gmail.com > wrote: > So the request would be to put it in README and make a new package, right? > > There has been somebody committing changes to the 2.1 branch. > @Artyom: You have been committing changes to the 2.1 branch that will now > subsequently be part of any new RC candidate. > Namely: > > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1496776[OPENMEETINGS-687] > and > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1498438 [no Jira] > > (at least that are all changes that happened in that branch as far as I can > judge). > > So we need to re-test and verify the new RC 2 for the version 2.1.1 as its > not just a change in the README it is more then that. > And the Release notes need to be updated with the addition of > OPENMEETINGS-687. > > And something about the "remotelog.upload": > By viewing at the source code I discovered that there is no sessionId check > in the servlet request (see UploadController.java around line 144). > I would suggest adding the sessionId into the Post parameters and check > that the request really comes from a valid user session. > Cause actually aynbody that know the URL: > http://demo.dataved.ru/openmeetings/remote.upload > and knows that it will expect a single Post parameter with the name > "message" can write _whatever_ content he likes to our log files, for > example flood the server with log messages. So potentially when he is using > the max_post_size he can write the disk full in a couple of minutes and the > OpenMeetings server is dead. > > From my point of view it would make sense to simply pass the sessionid with > the request, as with every other request, and verify that the sessionId > belongs to a valid user session with ever request to that method. > > Thanks, > Sebastian > > > > > 2013/7/2 Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com> > > > I think README is ok. > > > > -- > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > http://dataved.ru/ > > +7 916 562 8095 > > > > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > Should it be in NOTES or README or both? > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Alexei Fedotov < > > alexei.fedo...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > >> Are there any objections to the following text? > > >> > > >> --- > > >> Video/audio SIP integration is no longer a part of Apache release. > > >> Check free red5sip product for this integration. > > >> > > >> We also introduced reliability testing for this release (great job, > > >> Vasily Degtyarev!) For 1 hour long conferences the following does not > > >> work with Openmeetings 2.1.1: > > >> * Recordigs > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-669 > > >> * Recent version with Adobe Flash (please downgrade to 11.5 version) > > >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885188 > > >> * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be running in > > >> different browsers or tabs) > > >> --- > > >> 26.06.2013 12:17 пользователь "Maxim Solodovnik" < > solomax...@gmail.com> > > >> написал: > > >> > > >> > @Alexei, I believe red5sip issues should not affect OM release > cycle. > > >> > > > >> > I was planning to release 2.1.1RC1. > > >> > Please let me know if RC2 should be packed. (I see no need for this > > right > > >> > now) > > >> > > > >> > In case README and/or NOTICE need to be changed I would really > > appreciate > > >> > if anybody will send me the new text. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 3:15 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < > > >> > seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > I know from the past that you have been not allowed to use the > same > > >> > device > > >> > > in multiple Flash Applications at the same time. > > >> > > In the past it was for example even like that: > > >> > > If a microphone or camera device was taken, the Flash Plagin > > >> *magically* > > >> > > knew it and any further request to Microphone.get(); would return > a > > >> list > > >> > of > > >> > > Microphone _except_ the one that is already in use. > > >> > > > > >> > > So what I can confirm is: There have been problems already in the > > past > > >> > > where you could not use the same Microphone in multiple Flash > > >> > Applications > > >> > > on the same device (no matter if you do that in multiple tabs or > in > > IE > > >> > and > > >> > > Firefox). > > >> > > > > >> > > A general rule is: Only one application at a time should access > the > > >> > > Microphone (or Camera). For instance: Skype and OpenMeetings > should > > not > > >> > run > > >> > > parallel and both use the Microphone at the same time (an > exception > > >> might > > >> > > be if you really have two microphone devices physically with two > > >> > separated > > >> > > drivers et cetera). > > >> > > > > >> > > But I always thought that would be more like a common knowledge, > its > > >> > > actually true for any kind of Video-Conferencing or WebChat > > >> application, > > >> > > not even for browser or Flash related applications: Only one > > >> application > > >> > at > > >> > > the same time should use Microphone or Camera. > > >> > > > > >> > > Sebastian > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > 2013/6/25 Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > > >> > > > Sebastian, > > >> > > > > > >> > > > My best guess about multi-tabs root cause is un-synchronized > > access > > >> to > > >> > > > video/audio coding internals (decoding works well) and inside > > Flash > > >> > > > and device drivers. This makes crashes unpredictable. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > -- > > >> > > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > >> > > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > >> > > > http://dataved.ru/ > > >> > > > +7 916 562 8095 > > >> > > > > > >> > > > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > > >> > > http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > > >> > > > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > > >> http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > > >> > > > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > > >> > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:58 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com > > >> > > > <seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > > * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be running > in > > >> > > > different > > >> > > > > browsers or tabs)* > > >> > > > > "This is a well-known problem with Flash on Linux" > > >> > > > > => Then the sentence might be more like: > > >> > > > > " Running multiple instance of OpenMeetings or Flash > > applications > > >> on > > >> > > > Linux > > >> > > > > can cause issues with the stability of the Flash Plugin" > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > My problem is more the general approach of all those release > > notes. > > >> > > > > You generally say: Usage of multiple tabs is forbidden, while > > the > > >> > > actual > > >> > > > > use case is much more specific. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Same for recordings, the documented use cases is fairly more > > >> detailed > > >> > > > then > > >> > > > > the Release Notes indicate. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Do you have a proposal for those Release Notes that would > > reflect > > >> > more > > >> > > > the > > >> > > > > detailed level of discussion that we have done now? > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Thanks, > > >> > > > > Sebastian > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > 2013/6/25 Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> That was intended to be one sentence, (it is broken in the > > text) > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > For those who don't trust, let's try a recording session > > online > > >> > and > > >> > > > >> check. > > >> > > > >> -- > > >> > > > >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > >> > > > >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > >> > > > >> http://dataved.ru/ > > >> > > > >> +7 916 562 8095 > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > > >> > > > http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > > >> > > > >> [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > > >> > http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > > >> > > > >> [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > > >> > > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov > > >> > > > >> <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > Artyom, > > >> > > > >> > release notes are written for a user. Imagine you are one. > > Notes > > >> > > > >> > should help you and tell > > >> > > > >> > you that despite openmeetings.apache.org web site which > > >> mentions > > >> > > > >> > recordings they do not work for > > >> > > > >> > real conferences in 2.1.1. If you learn this by trial and > > error, > > >> > > > >> > it will take a lot of your time. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Release notes are not intended to blame that someone breaks > > >> > > something. > > >> > > > >> > This is useless anyway because one can imagine the case > when > > >> > > > >> > Openmeetings breaks by itself (and we > > >> > > > >> > get one with Adobe auto-updater). > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Sebastian, > > >> > > > >> > The bug about recordings is not that good in description, > > still > > >> > the > > >> > > > >> > problem exists. We do recordings several times per week, > and > > >> soon > > >> > > > >> > locate the problem root cause more accurately. Vasily > reports > > >> that > > >> > > > >> > generic recording session works for no longer than 20 > minutes > > >> > > (longer > > >> > > > >> > recording sessions are rare exceptions). > > >> > > > >> > a recording session online and check. I myself did several > > in a > > >> > row. > > >> > > > >> > Taking into account the standard conference planning cycle > > is 1 > > >> > > hour, > > >> > > > >> > I think 20 minutes is not sufficient. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > For those who don't trust, let's try. The "try it" approach > > >> > > magically > > >> > > > >> > worked for multi-tabs and Irina, we > > >> > > > >> > got a crash in few seconds. She seems much more convinced > in > > her > > >> > > last > > >> > > > >> > letter, though this is only a part of the problem. Also > > >> > multi-tabbed > > >> > > > >> > openmeetings somehow corrupts windows microphone settings. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > As for memory consumption, locating a problem was more > > >> difficult, > > >> > > than > > >> > > > >> > to believe into it now. IMHO Adobe developers have leaks in > > >> codec > > >> > > > >> > implementations (eg releasing memory for some video > frames), > > >> when > > >> > we > > >> > > > >> > do not free all resources explicitly (and cannot free > > >> system-deep > > >> > > > >> > resources). SIP integration has its own server resource > leak, > > >> this > > >> > > one > > >> > > > >> > is unrelated. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > While I personally want having SIP among the features (and > do > > >> test > > >> > > it > > >> > > > >> > several times a day), I'm ok with dropping it. Let's just > > >> reflect > > >> > > this > > >> > > > >> > drop in the last release notes. This is important because > we > > >> > > announced > > >> > > > >> > SIP integration several times, and the last time was in > > March. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > I'm not +1 with shipping a release which misses reported > > >> features > > >> > > > >> > without a proper note, because this potentially makes > > customers > > >> > > > >> > unhappy. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > > > >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > >> > > > >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > >> > > > >> > http://dataved.ru/ > > >> > > > >> > +7 916 562 8095 > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > > >> > > > >> http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > > >> > > > >> > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > > >> > > http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > > >> > > > >> > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > > >> > > > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 3:08 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com > > >> > > > >> > <seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> Hi there, > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >> regarding OPENMEETINGS-669 > > >> > > > >> >> This has nothing todo with Release 2.1.1. I don't think it > > >> should > > >> > > be > > >> > > > a > > >> > > > >> note > > >> > > > >> >> in the release notes. The comment in the Jira ticket *I > have > > >> > > retested > > >> > > > >> on OM > > >> > > > >> >> 3.0. Recording works without errors.* > > >> > > > >> >> => This error can potentially happen with any version of > > >> > > > OpenMeetings. > > >> > > > >> >> I can clarify the details of how and when this can happen, > > >> > however > > >> > > > the > > >> > > > >> root > > >> > > > >> >> cause of the issue is not any new introduced functionality > > of > > >> > > > >> OpenMeetings > > >> > > > >> >> 2.1.1 and it has _nothing_ todo with the length of the > > >> > recording. I > > >> > > > >> would > > >> > > > >> >> be very happy if there would be a concrete steps to > > reproduce > > >> the > > >> > > > issue > > >> > > > >> in > > >> > > > >> >> the Bug report. > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >> regarding > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885188 > > >> > > > >> >> Does this bug happen also _without_ using the SIP > > integration? > > >> > > > >> >> Also the Bug report clearly states that the inital report > > has > > >> > > nothing > > >> > > > >> todo > > >> > > > >> >> with the second crash report in the ticket. > > >> > > > >> >> I doubt that downgrading Flash Player will change the > memory > > >> > > > >> consumption, > > >> > > > >> >> however that is also just a theory. The same theory that > the > > >> bug > > >> > > > report > > >> > > > >> >> asumes by saying *downgrading Flash solves the issue*. I > > don't > > >> > > think > > >> > > > >> that > > >> > > > >> >> there is a general request for *downgrade to 11.5 version* > > of > > >> > Flash > > >> > > > >> Player. > > >> > > > >> >> The bug report actually does not even mention which > version > > >> > exactly > > >> > > > was > > >> > > > >> >> tested and identified as buggy. So which version of the > > Flash > > >> > > Player > > >> > > > was > > >> > > > >> >> this actually? And for instance which task exactly in the > > Flash > > >> > > > Player > > >> > > > >> has > > >> > > > >> >> the memory leak? It could be for instance also a problem > > with > > >> our > > >> > > > >> >> Audio/Video Codec configuration in the conference room or > > >> simply > > >> > a > > >> > > > >> problem > > >> > > > >> >> with the cam/microphone driver on that particular device. > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >> * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be > > running > > >> in > > >> > > > >> different > > >> > > > >> >> browsers or tabs)* > > >> > > > >> >> => I don't see any problem in running two instances of > > >> > OpenMeetings > > >> > > > >> next to > > >> > > > >> >> each other, I do that all the time for testing. > > >> > > > >> >> I don't think this Release Note should be added. What > Irina > > >> > > mentions > > >> > > > is > > >> > > > >> a > > >> > > > >> >> specific use-case, but even that, I do that all the time > > >> without > > >> > > > >> issues. So > > >> > > > >> >> there might be a problem but creating now the general > > >> restriction > > >> > > to > > >> > > > >> have > > >> > > > >> >> only a single tab opened all the time and close everything > > else > > >> > > > seems a > > >> > > > >> bit > > >> > > > >> >> restricted. Maybe this phrase could be worded differently: > > >> > > > >> >> *Running multiple Flash Applications or OpenMeetings > > instances > > >> in > > >> > > > >> multiple > > >> > > > >> >> Tabs on the same device can lead to unexpected behaviour* > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >> regarding OPENMEETINGS-677, OPENMEETINGS-678 > > >> > > > >> >> What is it that we mention this in the Release Notes? > > >> Integration > > >> > > of > > >> > > > >> >> SIP-Video is not on our list of current features. It would > > be a > > >> > > nice > > >> > > > >> >> feature, but why would you add it to the Release Notes if > > there > > >> > is > > >> > > an > > >> > > > >> issue > > >> > > > >> >> with it? It was not even announced yet that it would exist > > at > > >> > all? > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >> Thanks, > > >> > > > >> >> Sebastian > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >> 2013/6/24 Irina Arkhipets <irina.arkhip...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >>> Hi All, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> Reharding the multi-tabbing: > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> Here is a link to the crash report I've received recently > > >> when I > > >> > > > tried > > >> > > > >> to > > >> > > > >> >>> sit in two different OpenMeetings rooms in the tabs of > the > > >> same > > >> > > > >> Mozilla FF > > >> > > > >> >>> browser: > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/c448bb3d-18ef-45f6-aa66-7d8492130624 > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> It looks like some known bug in the flash player: see the > > list > > >> > of > > >> > > > the > > >> > > > >> >>> candidates in the bug report. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> It seems like I am able to sit in one OpenMeetings room > > from > > >> two > > >> > > > tabs > > >> > > > >> of > > >> > > > >> >>> the same browser as well as play youtube videos at the > same > > >> > > moment. > > >> > > > >> >>> For me, the problems appear when I am trying to enter two > > >> > > different > > >> > > > >> rooms > > >> > > > >> >>> in the same browser at the moment. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> Regards, > > >> > > > >> >>> Irina. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko < > > >> > > > akhor...@gmail.com > > >> > > > >> >>> >wrote: > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > Video/audio SIP integration has never been a part of > > >> > > Openmeetings > > >> > > > >> (as I > > >> > > > >> >>> > know); > > >> > > > >> >>> > Recordings didn't work before release, it's not new in > > >> 2.1.1; > > >> > > > >> >>> > There are troubles with recent version of Adobe Flash > in > > >> 2.1, > > >> > > it's > > >> > > > >> not > > >> > > > >> >>> new > > >> > > > >> >>> > too > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > 2013/6/24 Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > Artyom, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > I have updated the release notes with your input, and > > >> > > additional > > >> > > > >> input > > >> > > > >> >>> > > from Irina. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > --- > > >> > > > >> >>> > > Video/audio SIP integration is no longer a part of > > Apache > > >> > > > release. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > Check free red5sip product for this integration. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > We also introduced reliability testing for this > > release > > >> > > (great > > >> > > > >> job, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > Vasily Degtyarev!). For 1 hour long conferences the > > >> > following > > >> > > > does > > >> > > > >> not > > >> > > > >> >>> > > work with Openmeetings 2.1.1: > > >> > > > >> >>> > > * Recordigs > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-669 > > >> > > > >> >>> > > * Recent version with Adobe Flash (please downgrade > to > > >> 11.5 > > >> > > > >> version) > > >> > > > >> >>> > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885188 > > >> > > > >> >>> > > * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be > > >> > running > > >> > > in > > >> > > > >> >>> > > different browsers or tabs) > > >> > > > >> >>> > > --- > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > -- > > >> > > > >> >>> > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > http://dataved.ru/ > > >> > > > >> >>> > > +7 916 562 8095 > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > > >> > > > >> >>> > http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > > >> > > > >> >>> > > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > > >> > > > >> http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > > >> > > > >> >>> > > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > > >> > > > >> >>> http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko < > > >> > > > >> >>> akhor...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > wrote: > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > Alexei, we shouldn't worry about sip integeration > in > > our > > >> > > > releases > > >> > > > >> >>> until > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > red5sip is not an Openmeetings part. For example, > > let's > > >> > > > imagine > > >> > > > >> if > > >> > > > >> >>> > Linux > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > developers say: "We can't release new kernel > because > > >> > > > OpenOffice > > >> > > > >> has > > >> > > > >> >>> > > various > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > document rendering bugs". And Adobe Flash is not > good > > >> > > example > > >> > > > >> because > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > Openmeetings uses flash, but red5sip uses > > Openmeetings > > >> to > > >> > > > provide > > >> > > > >> >>> voip > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > integration; all sip audio/video troubles are not > > cause > > >> of > > >> > > > >> >>> Openmeetings > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > bugs. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > 2013/6/24 Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> I'm constantly getting enlightened by many people > > that > > >> > > > red4sip > > >> > > > >> is > > >> > > > >> >>> not > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> a part of Openmeetings. I'm well aware of that > fact. > > >> :-) > > >> > > > Adobe > > >> > > > >> Flash > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> is not a part of Openmeetings as well, and cause > us > > the > > >> > > > problems > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> anyway. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> If you program does not run on Linux, release > notes > > >> > should > > >> > > > say, > > >> > > > >> >>> "does > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> not run on Linux". IMHO, it's important to > reference > > >> > > > ecosystem > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> requirements in release notes. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> -- > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> http://dataved.ru/ > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> +7 916 562 8095 > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > > >> > > > >> >>> http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > > >> > > > >> >>> > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > The previous release was an important step for > > us, we > > >> > > > >> graduated. > > >> > > > >> >>> > Right > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > now we should restore original "release" meaning > > by > > >> > > > >> establishing > > >> > > > >> >>> the > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > quality. There are two steps in establishing the > > >> > quality. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > 1. Define the quality. Vasily did a good job > here. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > 2. Improving the quality. Here we can improve > > more. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > I want release notes being correct and agreed > with > > >> > > > >> participants. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > Taking Artyom comment into account, I wrote the > > >> > following > > >> > > > >> attempt > > >> > > > >> >>> of > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > release notes. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > The following no longer works with Openmeetings > > 2.1.1 > > >> > > (for > > >> > > > 1 > > >> > > > >> hour > > >> > > > >> >>> > long > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > conferences) > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > * Recordigs > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > * Recent version with Adobe Flash (please > > downgrade > > >> to > > >> > > 11.5 > > >> > > > >> >>> version) > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application > > should be > > >> > > > running > > >> > > > >> in > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > different browsers or tabs) > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > * Video/audio SIP integration (because it > requires > > >> > > another > > >> > > > >> program > > >> > > > >> >>> > we > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > don't want to mention anymore) > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > Vasily, could you please help adding bug > numbers > > to > > >> > each > > >> > > > >> line of > > >> > > > >> >>> > the > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> notes? > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > The last item intentionally has a weird > > explanation, > > >> > but > > >> > > > >> that's > > >> > > > >> >>> > what I > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > get from Artyom's letter. Artyom, could you > please > > >> > > correct > > >> > > > the > > >> > > > >> >>> last > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > item in a way you think correctly reflects the > > state > > >> of > > >> > > SIP > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > integration? > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > I think we can ship release with reflected > > problems, > > >> > this > > >> > > > may > > >> > > > >> help > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > users not to seek things they won't get. With > > these > > >> > > release > > >> > > > >> notes > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > (improved with bug references and corrections) > the > > >> > > release > > >> > > > >> gets my > > >> > > > >> >>> > +1. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > -- > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > http://dataved.ru/ > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > +7 916 562 8095 > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > > >> > > > >> >>> > http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 2:17 AM, > > >> seba.wag...@gmail.com > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > <seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> I think Artyom is right. Red5Sip is not the > > scope of > > >> > the > > >> > > > >> >>> > OpenMeetings > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> project. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> Me might discuss on how we can make it the > > scope, if > > >> > we > > >> > > > are > > >> > > > >> able > > >> > > > >> >>> to > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> create > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> an Incubator project around Red5Sip. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> I think for the end user this discussion (scope > > or > > >> > not) > > >> > > > is a > > >> > > > >> >>> rather > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> esoteric discussion as they are simply > interested > > >> in a > > >> > > > >> working > > >> > > > >> >>> > > product. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> However for the release, Artyom & Alexei, you > are > > >> both > > >> > > PMC > > >> > > > >> >>> members, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > have > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> you an opinion about the 2.1.1 release? > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> Thanks, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> Sebastian > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> 2013/6/24 Artyom Horuzhenko < > akhor...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Hello Alexei, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> I've just changed sip integration instruction > a > > >> > little > > >> > > by > > >> > > > >> adding > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> denoise > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> and dsp_drop_silence attributes and removed > > silent > > >> > > > >> detection in > > >> > > > >> >>> > > red5sip > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> because there were some problems with it. I > > think > > >> we > > >> > > > >> shouldn't > > >> > > > >> >>> > > include > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> any > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> information about red5sip improvement into > > >> > Openmeetings > > >> > > > >> release > > >> > > > >> >>> > > notes > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> because red5sip is another application. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> 2013/6/23 Alexei Fedotov < > > alexei.fedo...@gmail.com > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Sebastian, I have tested audio SIP > > integration by > > >> > > using > > >> > > > >> SIP > > >> > > > >> >>> > bridge > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> for > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > my own conferences. As a result, Artyom > found > > out > > >> > > that > > >> > > > >> >>> disabling > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > jitter-buffer in the Asterisk configuration > > >> > improves > > >> > > > >> audio. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > Artyom, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > where one can find your findings on the > Apache > > >> web > > >> > > > site? > > >> > > > >> Does > > >> > > > >> >>> it > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> worth > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > reflecting this in release notes? > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > -- > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > With best regards / с наилучшими > пожеланиями, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > http://dataved.ru/ > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > +7 916 562 8095 > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 7:09 AM, > > >> > > seba.wag...@gmail.com > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > <seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > We have 3 +1 votes from PMCs. So in theory > > it > > >> is > > >> > > > >> possible. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > However it would be good if there is some > > more > > >> > > > feedback > > >> > > > >> in > > >> > > > >> >>> the > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> community > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > about that release. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Anybody else has been testing this > release? > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Sebastian > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > 2013/6/22 Maxim Solodovnik < > > >> solomax...@gmail.com > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> I believe we should release rc1. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> @Sebastian can you publish and announce > the > > >> > > release? > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> BTW I did paragliding from ~2300 meters > in > > >> > Turkey > > >> > > > with > > >> > > > >> >>> > > instructor > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> and > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > sky > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> acrobatics :) it was really amazing! :) > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> On Jun 22, 2013 3:36 AM, " > > >> seba.wag...@gmail.com > > >> > " > > >> > > < > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> wrote: > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > I could only find one minor issue: > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-681 > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > I think that is still good to go out > as a > > >> > > release. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > +1 > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > Sebastian > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > 2013/6/22 seba.wag...@gmail.com < > > >> > > > >> seba.wag...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > I am sorry for the delay. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > The vote is now actually outdated. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Shall we restart the vote process for > > >> 2.1.1 > > >> > ? > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Sebastian > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > 2013/6/10 seba.wag...@gmail.com < > > >> > > > >> seba.wag...@gmail.com > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Release vote happens on dev list, > > never on > > >> > > > private. > > >> > > > >> >>> > Please > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> vote on > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > dev, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > as > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> the link to the dev list will be > what > > we > > >> > > > publish > > >> > > > >> as a > > >> > > > >> >>> > > result > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> of > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> the > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > vote. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> I am sorry but I can't test before > > next > > >> > week > > >> > > > as I > > >> > > > >> >>> don't > > >> > > > >> >>> > > have > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> a > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> Internet > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> connection good enough while I > travel > > >> > abroad. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> Thanks, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> Sebastian > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> 2013/6/8 Maxim Solodovnik < > > >> > > > solomax...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Dear OpenMeetings Community, > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> I would like to start a vote about > > >> > releasing > > >> > > > >> Apache > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> OpenMeetings > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> 2.1.1 > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> RC1 > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Main changes are covered in the > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Readme: > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1.1RC1/README > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Full Changelog: > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1.1RC1/CHANGELOG > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Release artifacts: > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/2.1.1/rc1/ > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Tag: > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1.1RC1/ > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> PGP release keys (signed using > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> C467526E): > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/2.1.1/rc1/KEYS > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Vote will be open for 72 hours. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> [ ] +1 approve > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> [ ] +0 no opinion > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> My vote is +1. > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> -- > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> WBR > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Maxim aka solomax > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> -- > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> Sebastian Wagner > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> http://www.webbase-design.de > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> seba.wag...@gmail.com > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > -- > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Sebastian Wagner > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > http://www.webbase-design.de > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > seba.wag...@gmail.com > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > -- > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > Sebastian Wagner > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > http://www.webbase-design.de > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > seba.wag...@gmail.com > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > -- > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Sebastian Wagner > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > http://www.webbase-design.de > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > seba.wag...@gmail.com > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> -- > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> Sebastian Wagner > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> http://www.webbase-design.de > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> seba.wag...@gmail.com > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >> -- > > >> > > > >> >> Sebastian Wagner > > >> > > > >> >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > > >> > > > >> >> http://www.webbase-design.de > > >> > > > >> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > >> > > > >> >> seba.wag...@gmail.com > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > -- > > >> > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > >> > > > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > > >> > > > > http://www.webbase-design.de > > >> > > > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > >> > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > -- > > >> > > Sebastian Wagner > > >> > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > > >> > > http://www.webbase-design.de > > >> > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > > >> > > seba.wag...@gmail.com > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > WBR > > >> > Maxim aka solomax > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > WBR > > > Maxim aka solomax > > > > > > -- > Sebastian Wagner > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > http://www.webbase-design.de > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > seba.wag...@gmail.com > -- WBR Maxim aka solomax
