There might be a few relatively small but impactful things to add to the release:
*Prompt mobile browsers to use landscape mode * I would add this only inside the conference room, not outside. Outside of the conference room it's actually okay to be in portrait mode. But inside the conference room portrait mode really just doesn't work. With the viewport that I've added you can finally click on some of the icons inside the conference room, but it's still un-usable. It just doesn't have enough space on the screen in portrait mode. So adding a simple and small prompt for users to suggest to rotate to landscape mode will be good. And maybe only add that inside the conference room as outside is actually okay. *Check for minimum browser versions, especially on mobile devices* e.g. Safari we know is broken for webRTC if Safari version is smaller then v15.x. I'm sure other browsers have similar minimum versions. It will just otherwise lead to a lot of frustration or users give up on OpenMeetings cause they don't understand that their problem is with their browser. Not OpenMeetings. And in most scenarios this does not indicate anything to users. It just silently breaks. *Update initial check to redirect all users to HTTPS* OpenMeetings really does not work without SSL/HTTPS. Most of the HTML5/webRTC APIs require HTTPS. But also e.g. the "Notification" API requires HTTPS (see https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/notification). So users can not watch a video conference. Nor publish mic/cam. And that is not just "inside" the conference room. It looks increasingly difficult to safeguard every possible scenario where a JS API requires HTTPS with an additional pop up to prompt users. I know we have some prompts, but I think you could just redirect on page load of the main landing page to HTTPS. Really easy to fix. If somebody doesn't like that they can (a) just accept the self signed certificate (b) deep link to another page. This could be also easily made configurable (if required). I think the above items would be useful things to do before releasing. I can convert that to Jira's. But I think not fixing those makes it very difficult for non-expert users to understand what is broken. I think the majority of users will think OpenMeetings is broken. While actually it's a limitation with their setup/environment. And I think most of those users will just stop using OpenMeetings. They do not complain to the mailing list (fortunately or unfortunately :) ). But they just give up and evaluate other software/applications. So I think those could be minor fixes. But may have a big impact. Thanks Seb Sebastian Wagner Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5 Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 18:47, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: > Good morning, > > Thanks Maxim, Sebastian. Then could you please > tell me when the definitive release 6.2.0 will > be ready? > I need to know it to build the live iso with the > right file release. > > Thanks again. > > Alvaro > > > ------------ > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 15:42:06 +1300 > "seba.wag...@gmail.com" <seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > My daughter was sick, now she is much better :) > > > > Hope things get better quickly! > > > > The fix is as easy > > > > ok thx let me try that and spin up another demo server with the fix to > test > > on an iOS device > > > > Thanks > > Seb > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5 > > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings > > < > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url > > > > < > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 15:39, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > from mobile (sorry for typos ;) > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 09:34 seba.wag...@gmail.com < > seba.wag...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll try to help if will get out from hospital this week > > > > > > > > => You should rather rest up! But if you could help review PRs once I > > > have > > > > some proposed fix. Or specific ideas I should look at. > > > > > > > > > > I'm in the hospital ad baby sitter :) > > > My daughter was sick, now she is much better :) > > > > > > The fix is as easy as > > > ``` > > > if (!Notification || typeof(Notification.granted) !== 'string') { > > > return; > > > } > > > ``` > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5 > > > > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings > > > > < > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 15:32, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'll try to help if will get out from hospital this week > > > > > > > > > > from mobile (sorry for typos ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 09:30 seba.wag...@gmail.com < > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Okay let's delay for one week then. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any other objections/opinions from other people ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise I leave this VOTE open for another 24h to see if there > are > > > > any > > > > > > other responses. Or assume - if no further responses - people are > > > happy > > > > > to > > > > > > delay by another week or so. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5 > > > > > > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 15:28, Maxim Solodovnik < > solomax...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from mobile (sorry for typos ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 09:20 seba.wag...@gmail.com < > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah so delay a few months or not? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would wait for one more week > > > > > > > We can do another release in 1-2 months > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think just fixing the Notification API issue is worth > > > > > blocking > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > release. It may have no impact on any functionality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had similar situation with desktop safari > > > > > > > Similar error in notification API (now guarded) stops JS > execution > > > > and > > > > > om > > > > > > > ui was not loaded > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apart from a JS > > > > > > > > console error (and basically notification popups on iOS > obviously > > > > not > > > > > > > > working) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5 > > > > > > > > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 15:17, Maxim Solodovnik < > > > > solomax...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from mobile (sorry for typos ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 08:59 seba.wag...@gmail.com < > > > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sry I don't think I will be able to review/update and > test on > > > > iOS > > > > > > > > within > > > > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > > week. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The issue with notification API is easy to fix and easy to > > > check > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also we don't know yet if the notification API fix > actually > > > > fixes > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > can share you webcam on iOS. If not, then we will need to > > > keep > > > > > > > digging. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I doubt so > > > > > > > > > I would say this is something else > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would say give it 3-4 weeks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm afraid this might be too optimictic > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately this is the task I can't help with :( > > > > > > > > > I don't have apple devices :( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for > HTML5 > > > > > > > > > > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 13:51, Maxim Solodovnik < > > > > > > solomax...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would fix the issue with "notification API" > > > > > > > > > > > And maybe spent some reasonable time on others ( one > week > > > or > > > > > so) > > > > > > > > > > > The release 6.2.0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from mobile (sorry for typos ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 04:25 seba.wag...@gmail.com < > > > > > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This vote has passed as successful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However we discovered some issues on iOS/Mobile. The > > > issue > > > > is > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > Mobile Safari/iOS and Chrome/iOS (probably any iOS > mobile > > > > > > > browser) > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > cannot share your video stream. Audio-only works. > > > Listening > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > viewing > > > > > > > > > > > > *other* people's audio/video works fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also to be clear, this is not Safari/*macOS* > (*macOS* is > > > > the > > > > > > > > desktop > > > > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > > > laptop version of Apple's operating system, it's a > > > > different > > > > > > > > browser > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > operating system from *iOS*, which is the Mobile > version > > > of > > > > > > > Apple's > > > > > > > > > > > > operating system). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari/macOS and Chrome/macOS work fine. No problems > in > > > > > > > publishing > > > > > > > > > > webcam > > > > > > > > > > > > or microphone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari/iOS and Chrome/iOS are broken in 6.2.0, but > also > > > > > 6.1.0. > > > > > > It > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > likely > > > > > > > > > > > > to be broken also in 6.0.0 and earlier versions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I created some jiras with steps to reproduce, stack > > > trace, > > > > > > > possible > > > > > > > > > > > things > > > > > > > > > > > > to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2679 > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2678 > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2677 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fixing those issues is likely to take a few weeks, > > > because: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - There is no clear root cause, Webkit/iOS is > special > > > in > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > There are pointers of some errors, not clear if it > > > will > > > > > fix > > > > > > > > > > publishing > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > webcam or not > > > > > > > > > > > > - Testing takes a long time: Testing locally is > next > > > to > > > > > > > > impossible > > > > > > > > > > > > because you need to test on an actual device, > which > > > does > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > work > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > valid certificate, since you won't be able to use > > > > > localhost > > > > > > + > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > > > > developer has access to an iOS device or > experience > > > how > > > > to > > > > > > set > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > up > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari/iOS console stack trace using remote > debugging > > > > > > > > > > > > - It is likely that there are additional things > around > > > > iOS > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > not quite aware yet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *So in summary I would like to know:* > > > > > > > > > > > > A) Should we defer releasing v6.2.0 to look into > > > > Safari/iOS + > > > > > > > > > > Chrome/iOS > > > > > > > > > > > > (likely will take a few weeks) ? > > > > > > > > > > > > B) Or release v6.2.0 now and fix further > enhancements for > > > > > > > > Safari/iOS > > > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > > > > > > Chrome/iOS in v7.0.0 or a v6.3.0 ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for > > > HTML5 > > > > > > > > > > > > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 09:07, Networking with Khurram > > > Nawaz > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > khurram...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 30, 2021, at 1:41 PM, Ali Alhaidary < > > > > > > > > > > > > ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On 9/30/21 12:05 PM, Alvaro wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 20:41:40 +1300 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> "seba.wag...@gmail.com" <seba.wag...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> *D*ear OpenMeetings Community :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Sry for the re-vote, there was 1 Jira ticket > > > missing > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > previous > > > > > > > > > > > > > vote > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> and package description of 6.2.0 RC1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> So I would like to start a vote about releasing > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > > OpenMeetings > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6.2.0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> based on RC2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> *Main changes are: * > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> UI improvements, stability fixes and adds > OpenAPI > > > > spec > > > > > in > > > > > > > > 3.0.x > > > > > > > > > > > > format > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> *Stability and UI:* > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> * UI fixes > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> * Modal PopUpFix > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> * Upgrade to Bootstrap5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> *Integration:* > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> * OpenAPI Spec in swagger format see > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://openmeetings.apache.org/swagger > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> * Improved Integration examples for Node and > PHP > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Some other fixes and improvements, 17 issues > were > > > > > > addressed > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Readme: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/6.2.0/rc2/README.md > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Changelog: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/6.2.0/rc2/CHANGELOG.md > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> List of fixed issues: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/OPENMEETINGS/versions/12349964 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Release artifacts: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/6.2.0/rc2/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Tag: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/releases/tag/6.2.0-RC2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> PGP release keys (signed using 93A30395): > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> https://www.apache.org/dist/openmeetings/KEYS > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Vote will be open for 72 hours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> [ ] +1 approve > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> [ ] +0 no opinion > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> My vote is +1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server > Hosting > > > for > > > > > > HTML5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Alvaro >
