On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 13:58, seba.wag...@gmail.com <seba.wag...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> >
> > How would you "guess" the correct HTTPS port?
> >
> I think you don't need to know.
>
> I think you can simply specify the "redirect" port in the "connector"
>
> https://serverfault.com/questions/758817/whats-the-redirect-port-for-in-tomcat
>
>
It is already specified:
https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-server/src/main/assembly/conf/server.xml#L57


> And then the client can directly request HTTPS on the HTTP port.
>
> And since the connector can't handle HTTPS (but has the redirect port
> specified) it will automatically redirect the user to the HTTPS version of
> the website.
>
> Thanks
> Seb
>
> Sebastian Wagner
> Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com
> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5
> Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings
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> On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 19:40, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 12:13, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
> seba.wag...@gmail.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > I believe all these points are non-blockers due to
> > > > almost everything below is something new
> > > > 6.2.0 intended to be bug-fix release (fixing serious issue at iPad )
> > >
> > > Ok. Lets just vote and do that in 7.0.0
> > >
> > > I would say this is something user can *guess* to do :)
> > > > it will provide much more space
> > >
> > >  Lets do landscape rotating user prompt in v7.0.0 (or 6.3.0)
> > >
> > > This might be moved to network-testing-tool
> > > > I doubt there is ready to use browser list we can use
> > > > And there is definitely no browser+version list :(((
> > >
> > > Lets do in v7.0.0 but I think this is really necessary. We don't need a
> > > "exclusive" list. E.g. we can just check for Safari for a start where
> we
> > > know v15.x is a minimum.
> > > Also I'm thinking this "prompt" can be non blocking == Meaning if you
> > have
> > > an old browser you can still use it, you just need to click away the
> > > prompt.
> > >
> > > Well
> > > > OM is currently shipped with self-signed-HTTPS ready to use
> > > > And It prompts user HTTPS is required
> > > > And all documentation states HTTPS is required
> > >
> > >
> > > > It is bad idea to drop HTTP just because it is the "right way" to set
> > up
> > > > front-end proxy
> > > > (Like it currently set-up on all demo servers)
> > >
> > > I'm not suggesting the "drop" HTTP.
> > > I am suggesting to change the "default" redirect when you enter
> > > http://myhost:port/ and redirect not only to /openmeetings but to
> https
> > > And potentially when you arrive at "BasePage.html" to make sure it
> > redirect
> > > you to "HTTPS" in case you are not.
> > > That is it.
> > >
> >
> > I'm afraid this is hardly possible :((
> > How would you "guess" the correct HTTPS port?
> > for ex. it is 5443 by default, 443 on demo, 8443 on demo-next ....
> >
> >
> > > That will not have an impact on any HTTPS/proxy. You can still run
> NGINX
> > or
> > > Apache mod_proxy to terminate SSL and have OpenMeetings run over
> HTTP/Non
> > > SSL.
> > > That will still work fine. All of the above are client side redirects
> > > (meaning if the client detects they are on http they redirect to
> https).
> > >
> > > Anyway, let me start voting on 6.2.0. And then we can address the
> above.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Seb
> > >
> > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com
> > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5
> > > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings
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> > > On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 05:55, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 at 09:40, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
> > > seba.wag...@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > There might be a few relatively small but impactful things to add
> to
> > > the
> > > > > release:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > I believe all these points are non-blockers due to
> > > > almost everything below is something new
> > > > 6.2.0 intended to be bug-fix release (fixing serious issue at iPad )
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > *Prompt mobile browsers to use landscape mode *
> > > > > I would add this only inside the conference room, not outside.
> > Outside
> > > of
> > > > > the conference room it's actually okay to be in portrait mode.
> > > > > But inside the conference room portrait mode really just doesn't
> > work.
> > > > With
> > > > > the viewport that I've added you can finally click on some of the
> > icons
> > > > > inside the conference room, but it's still un-usable. It just
> doesn't
> > > > have
> > > > > enough space on the screen in portrait mode.
> > > > > So adding a simple and small prompt for users to suggest to rotate
> to
> > > > > landscape mode will be good. And maybe only add that inside the
> > > > conference
> > > > > room as outside is actually okay.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I would say this is something user can *guess* to do :)
> > > > it will provide much more space
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *Check for minimum browser versions, especially on mobile devices*
> > > > > e.g. Safari we know is broken for webRTC if Safari version is
> smaller
> > > > then
> > > > > v15.x. I'm sure other browsers have similar minimum versions.
> > > > > It will just otherwise lead to a lot of frustration or users give
> up
> > on
> > > > > OpenMeetings cause they don't understand that their problem is with
> > > their
> > > > > browser. Not OpenMeetings. And in most scenarios this does not
> > indicate
> > > > > anything to users. It just silently breaks.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > This might be moved to network-testing-tool
> > > > I doubt there is ready to use browser list we can use
> > > > And there is definitely no browser+version list :(((
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > *Update initial check to redirect all users to HTTPS*
> > > > > OpenMeetings really does not work without SSL/HTTPS.
> > > > > Most of the HTML5/webRTC APIs require HTTPS. But also e.g. the
> > > > > "Notification" API requires HTTPS (see
> > > > > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/notification). So
> > > users
> > > > > can not  watch a video conference. Nor publish mic/cam. And that is
> > not
> > > > > just "inside" the conference room. It looks increasingly difficult
> to
> > > > > safeguard every possible scenario where a JS API requires HTTPS
> with
> > an
> > > > > additional pop up to prompt users.
> > > > > I know we have some prompts, but I think you could just redirect on
> > > page
> > > > > load of the main landing page to HTTPS. Really easy to fix. If
> > somebody
> > > > > doesn't like that they can (a) just accept the self signed
> > certificate
> > > > (b)
> > > > > deep link to another page. This could be also easily made
> > configurable
> > > > (if
> > > > > required).
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well
> > > > OM is currently shipped with self-signed-HTTPS ready to use
> > > > And It prompts user HTTPS is required
> > > > And all documentation states HTTPS is required
> > > >
> > > > It is bad idea to drop HTTP just because it is the "right way" to set
> > up
> > > > front-end proxy
> > > > (Like it currently set-up on all demo servers)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I think the above items would be useful things to do before
> > releasing.
> > > I
> > > > > can convert that to Jira's. But I think not fixing those makes it
> > very
> > > > > difficult for non-expert users to understand what is broken. I
> think
> > > the
> > > > > majority of users will think OpenMeetings is broken. While actually
> > > it's
> > > > a
> > > > > limitation with their setup/environment. And I think most of those
> > > users
> > > > > will just stop using OpenMeetings. They do not complain to the
> > mailing
> > > > list
> > > > > (fortunately or unfortunately :) ). But they just give up and
> > evaluate
> > > > > other software/applications.
> > > > >
> > > > > So I think those could be minor fixes. But may have a big impact.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Seb
> > > > >
> > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com
> > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > > > > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5
> > > > > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings
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> > > > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 18:47, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Good morning,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Maxim, Sebastian. Then could you please
> > > > > > tell me when the definitive release 6.2.0 will
> > > > > > be ready?
> > > > > > I need to know it to build the live iso with the
> > > > > > right file release.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alvaro
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 15:42:06 +1300
> > > > > > "seba.wag...@gmail.com" <seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My daughter was sick, now she is much better :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hope things get better quickly!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The fix is as easy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ok thx let me try that and spin up another demo server with the
> > fix
> > > > to
> > > > > > test
> > > > > > > on an iOS device
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > Seb
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com
> > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
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> > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 15:39, Maxim Solodovnik <
> > > solomax...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 09:34 seba.wag...@gmail.com <
> > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'll try to help if will get out from hospital this week
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > => You should rather rest up! But if you could help review
> > PRs
> > > > > once I
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > some proposed fix. Or specific ideas I should look at.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm in the hospital ad baby sitter :)
> > > > > > > > My daughter was sick, now she is much better :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The fix is as easy as
> > > > > > > > ```
> > > > > > > > if (!Notification || typeof(Notification.granted) !==
> > 'string') {
> > > > > > > >     return;
> > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > > ```
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > Seb
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com
> > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > > > > > > > > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5
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> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 15:32, Maxim Solodovnik <
> > > > > solomax...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'll try to help if will get out from hospital this week
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 09:30 seba.wag...@gmail.com <
> > > > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Okay let's delay for one week then.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Any other objections/opinions from other people ?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise I leave this VOTE open for another 24h to see
> > if
> > > > > there
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > any
> > > > > > > > > > > other responses. Or assume - if no further responses -
> > > people
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > > happy
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > delay by another week or so.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > Seb
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com
> > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
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> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 15:28, Maxim Solodovnik <
> > > > > > solomax...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Well,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 09:20 seba.wag...@gmail.com <
> > > > > > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah so delay a few months or not?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I would wait for one more week
> > > > > > > > > > > > We can do another release in 1-2 months
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think just fixing the Notification API
> issue
> > is
> > > > > worth
> > > > > > > > > > blocking
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > release. It may have no impact on any
> functionality.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > We had similar situation with desktop safari
> > > > > > > > > > > > Similar error in notification API (now guarded) stops
> > JS
> > > > > > execution
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > om
> > > > > > > > > > > > ui was not loaded
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Apart from a JS
> > > > > > > > > > > > > console error (and basically notification popups on
> > iOS
> > > > > > obviously
> > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > working)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Seb
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 15:17, Maxim Solodovnik <
> > > > > > > > > solomax...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 08:59 seba.wag...@gmail.com
> <
> > > > > > > > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sry I don't think I will be able to
> review/update
> > > and
> > > > > > test on
> > > > > > > > > iOS
> > > > > > > > > > > > > within
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > week.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The issue with notification API is easy to fix
> and
> > > easy
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > check
> > > > > > > > > :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also we don't know yet if the notification API
> > fix
> > > > > > actually
> > > > > > > > > fixes
> > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can share you webcam on iOS. If not, then we
> will
> > > > need
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > keep
> > > > > > > > > > > > digging.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I doubt so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would say this is something else
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would say give it 3-4 weeks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm afraid this might be too optimictic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately this is the task I can't help with
> :(
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't have apple devices :(
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server
> Hosting
> > > for
> > > > > > HTML5
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 13:51, Maxim Solodovnik <
> > > > > > > > > > > solomax...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would fix the issue with "notification API"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And maybe spent some reasonable time on
> others
> > (
> > > > one
> > > > > > week
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > so)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The release 6.2.0
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 04:25
> > seba.wag...@gmail.com
> > > <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This vote has passed as successful.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However we discovered some issues on
> > > iOS/Mobile.
> > > > > The
> > > > > > > > issue
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mobile Safari/iOS and Chrome/iOS (probably
> > any
> > > > iOS
> > > > > > mobile
> > > > > > > > > > > > browser)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cannot share your video stream. Audio-only
> > > works.
> > > > > > > > Listening
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > viewing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *other* people's audio/video works fine.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also to be clear, this is not
> Safari/*macOS*
> > > > > > (*macOS* is
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > desktop
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > /
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > laptop version of Apple's operating system,
> > > it's
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > > different
> > > > > > > > > > > > > browser
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > operating system from *iOS*, which is the
> > > Mobile
> > > > > > version
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > Apple's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > operating system).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari/macOS and Chrome/macOS work fine. No
> > > > > problems
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > publishing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webcam
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or microphone.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari/iOS and Chrome/iOS are broken in
> > 6.2.0,
> > > > but
> > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > 6.1.0.
> > > > > > > > > > > It
> > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > likely
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to be broken also in 6.0.0 and earlier
> > > versions.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I created some jiras with steps to
> reproduce,
> > > > stack
> > > > > > > > trace,
> > > > > > > > > > > > possible
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to fix:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    -
> > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2679
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    -
> > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2678
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    -
> > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2677
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fixing those issues is likely to take a few
> > > > weeks,
> > > > > > > > because:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    - There is no clear root cause,
> Webkit/iOS
> > > is
> > > > > > special
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    There are pointers of some errors, not
> > clear
> > > > if
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > fix
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > publishing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    webcam or not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    - Testing takes a long time: Testing
> > locally
> > > > is
> > > > > > next
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > impossible
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    because you need to test on an actual
> > > device,
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > does
> > > > > > > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    valid certificate, since you won't be
> able
> > > to
> > > > > use
> > > > > > > > > > localhost
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > every
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    developer has access to an iOS device or
> > > > > > experience
> > > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > set
> > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    Safari/iOS console stack trace using
> > remote
> > > > > > debugging
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    - It is likely that there are additional
> > > > things
> > > > > > around
> > > > > > > > > iOS
> > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    not quite aware yet
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *So in summary I would like to know:*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A) Should we defer releasing v6.2.0 to look
> > > into
> > > > > > > > > Safari/iOS +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chrome/iOS
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (likely will take a few weeks) ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B) Or release v6.2.0 now and fix further
> > > > > > enhancements for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari/iOS
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chrome/iOS in v7.0.0 or a v6.3.0 ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seb
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server
> > > Hosting
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > HTML5
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings
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> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <
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> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 09:07, Networking
> with
> > > > > Khurram
> > > > > > > > Nawaz
> > > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > khurram...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 30, 2021, at 1:41 PM, Ali
> > Alhaidary
> > > <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On 9/30/21 12:05 PM, Alvaro wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> +1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ------
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 20:41:40 +1300
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> "seba.wag...@gmail.com" <
> > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> *D*ear OpenMeetings Community :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Sry for the re-vote, there was 1 Jira
> > > > ticket
> > > > > > > > missing
> > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > previous
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vote
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> and package description of 6.2.0 RC1.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> So I would like to start a vote about
> > > > > releasing
> > > > > > > > > Apache
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenMeetings
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6.2.0
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> based on RC2
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> *Main changes are: *
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> UI improvements, stability fixes and
> > adds
> > > > > > OpenAPI
> > > > > > > > > spec
> > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.0.x
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > format
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> *Stability and UI:*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> * UI fixes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> * Modal PopUpFix
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> * Upgrade to Bootstrap5
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> *Integration:*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> * OpenAPI Spec in swagger format see
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://openmeetings.apache.org/swagger
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> * Improved Integration examples for
> > Node
> > > > and
> > > > > > PHP
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Some other fixes and improvements, 17
> > > > issues
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > > > > addressed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Readme:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/6.2.0/rc2/README.md
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Changelog:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/6.2.0/rc2/CHANGELOG.md
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> List of fixed issues:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/OPENMEETINGS/versions/12349964
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Release artifacts:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/6.2.0/rc2/
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Tag:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/releases/tag/6.2.0-RC2
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> PGP release keys (signed using
> > 93A30395):
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > https://www.apache.org/dist/openmeetings/KEYS
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Vote will be open for 72 hours.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> [ ] +1 approve
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> [ ] +0 no opinion
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> My vote is +1.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Seb
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Sebastian Wagner
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Director Arrakeen Solutions,
> > > OM-Hosting.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> https://om-hosting.com - Cloud &
> > Server
> > > > > > Hosting
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > HTML5
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> <
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> <
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> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Alvaro
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Maxim
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Best regards,
Maxim

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