On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 13:58, seba.wag...@gmail.com <seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > How would you "guess" the correct HTTPS port? > > > I think you don't need to know. > > I think you can simply specify the "redirect" port in the "connector" > > https://serverfault.com/questions/758817/whats-the-redirect-port-for-in-tomcat > > It is already specified: https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-server/src/main/assembly/conf/server.xml#L57 > And then the client can directly request HTTPS on the HTTP port. > > And since the connector can't handle HTTPS (but has the redirect port > specified) it will automatically redirect the user to the HTTPS version of > the website. > > Thanks > Seb > > Sebastian Wagner > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5 > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings > < > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url > > > < > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url > > > > > On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 19:40, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 12:13, seba.wag...@gmail.com < > seba.wag...@gmail.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I believe all these points are non-blockers due to > > > > almost everything below is something new > > > > 6.2.0 intended to be bug-fix release (fixing serious issue at iPad ) > > > > > > Ok. Lets just vote and do that in 7.0.0 > > > > > > I would say this is something user can *guess* to do :) > > > > it will provide much more space > > > > > > Lets do landscape rotating user prompt in v7.0.0 (or 6.3.0) > > > > > > This might be moved to network-testing-tool > > > > I doubt there is ready to use browser list we can use > > > > And there is definitely no browser+version list :((( > > > > > > Lets do in v7.0.0 but I think this is really necessary. We don't need a > > > "exclusive" list. E.g. we can just check for Safari for a start where > we > > > know v15.x is a minimum. > > > Also I'm thinking this "prompt" can be non blocking == Meaning if you > > have > > > an old browser you can still use it, you just need to click away the > > > prompt. > > > > > > Well > > > > OM is currently shipped with self-signed-HTTPS ready to use > > > > And It prompts user HTTPS is required > > > > And all documentation states HTTPS is required > > > > > > > > > > It is bad idea to drop HTTP just because it is the "right way" to set > > up > > > > front-end proxy > > > > (Like it currently set-up on all demo servers) > > > > > > I'm not suggesting the "drop" HTTP. > > > I am suggesting to change the "default" redirect when you enter > > > http://myhost:port/ and redirect not only to /openmeetings but to > https > > > And potentially when you arrive at "BasePage.html" to make sure it > > redirect > > > you to "HTTPS" in case you are not. > > > That is it. > > > > > > > I'm afraid this is hardly possible :(( > > How would you "guess" the correct HTTPS port? > > for ex. it is 5443 by default, 443 on demo, 8443 on demo-next .... > > > > > > > That will not have an impact on any HTTPS/proxy. You can still run > NGINX > > or > > > Apache mod_proxy to terminate SSL and have OpenMeetings run over > HTTP/Non > > > SSL. > > > That will still work fine. All of the above are client side redirects > > > (meaning if the client detects they are on http they redirect to > https). > > > > > > Anyway, let me start voting on 6.2.0. And then we can address the > above. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Seb > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5 > > > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings > > > < > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url > > > > > > > < > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 05:55, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 at 09:40, seba.wag...@gmail.com < > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > There might be a few relatively small but impactful things to add > to > > > the > > > > > release: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe all these points are non-blockers due to > > > > almost everything below is something new > > > > 6.2.0 intended to be bug-fix release (fixing serious issue at iPad ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Prompt mobile browsers to use landscape mode * > > > > > I would add this only inside the conference room, not outside. > > Outside > > > of > > > > > the conference room it's actually okay to be in portrait mode. > > > > > But inside the conference room portrait mode really just doesn't > > work. > > > > With > > > > > the viewport that I've added you can finally click on some of the > > icons > > > > > inside the conference room, but it's still un-usable. It just > doesn't > > > > have > > > > > enough space on the screen in portrait mode. > > > > > So adding a simple and small prompt for users to suggest to rotate > to > > > > > landscape mode will be good. And maybe only add that inside the > > > > conference > > > > > room as outside is actually okay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would say this is something user can *guess* to do :) > > > > it will provide much more space > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Check for minimum browser versions, especially on mobile devices* > > > > > e.g. Safari we know is broken for webRTC if Safari version is > smaller > > > > then > > > > > v15.x. I'm sure other browsers have similar minimum versions. > > > > > It will just otherwise lead to a lot of frustration or users give > up > > on > > > > > OpenMeetings cause they don't understand that their problem is with > > > their > > > > > browser. Not OpenMeetings. And in most scenarios this does not > > indicate > > > > > anything to users. It just silently breaks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This might be moved to network-testing-tool > > > > I doubt there is ready to use browser list we can use > > > > And there is definitely no browser+version list :((( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Update initial check to redirect all users to HTTPS* > > > > > OpenMeetings really does not work without SSL/HTTPS. > > > > > Most of the HTML5/webRTC APIs require HTTPS. But also e.g. the > > > > > "Notification" API requires HTTPS (see > > > > > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/notification). So > > > users > > > > > can not watch a video conference. Nor publish mic/cam. And that is > > not > > > > > just "inside" the conference room. It looks increasingly difficult > to > > > > > safeguard every possible scenario where a JS API requires HTTPS > with > > an > > > > > additional pop up to prompt users. > > > > > I know we have some prompts, but I think you could just redirect on > > > page > > > > > load of the main landing page to HTTPS. Really easy to fix. If > > somebody > > > > > doesn't like that they can (a) just accept the self signed > > certificate > > > > (b) > > > > > deep link to another page. This could be also easily made > > configurable > > > > (if > > > > > required). > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well > > > > OM is currently shipped with self-signed-HTTPS ready to use > > > > And It prompts user HTTPS is required > > > > And all documentation states HTTPS is required > > > > > > > > It is bad idea to drop HTTP just because it is the "right way" to set > > up > > > > front-end proxy > > > > (Like it currently set-up on all demo servers) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the above items would be useful things to do before > > releasing. > > > I > > > > > can convert that to Jira's. But I think not fixing those makes it > > very > > > > > difficult for non-expert users to understand what is broken. I > think > > > the > > > > > majority of users will think OpenMeetings is broken. While actually > > > it's > > > > a > > > > > limitation with their setup/environment. And I think most of those > > > users > > > > > will just stop using OpenMeetings. They do not complain to the > > mailing > > > > list > > > > > (fortunately or unfortunately :) ). But they just give up and > > evaluate > > > > > other software/applications. > > > > > > > > > > So I think those could be minor fixes. But may have a big impact. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5 > > > > > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 18:47, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Good morning, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Maxim, Sebastian. Then could you please > > > > > > tell me when the definitive release 6.2.0 will > > > > > > be ready? > > > > > > I need to know it to build the live iso with the > > > > > > right file release. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again. > > > > > > > > > > > > Alvaro > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 15:42:06 +1300 > > > > > > "seba.wag...@gmail.com" <seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My daughter was sick, now she is much better :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope things get better quickly! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fix is as easy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ok thx let me try that and spin up another demo server with the > > fix > > > > to > > > > > > test > > > > > > > on an iOS device > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5 > > > > > > > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 15:39, Maxim Solodovnik < > > > solomax...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from mobile (sorry for typos ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 09:34 seba.wag...@gmail.com < > > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll try to help if will get out from hospital this week > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > => You should rather rest up! But if you could help review > > PRs > > > > > once I > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > some proposed fix. Or specific ideas I should look at. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm in the hospital ad baby sitter :) > > > > > > > > My daughter was sick, now she is much better :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fix is as easy as > > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > > > if (!Notification || typeof(Notification.granted) !== > > 'string') { > > > > > > > > return; > > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5 > > > > > > > > > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 15:32, Maxim Solodovnik < > > > > > solomax...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll try to help if will get out from hospital this week > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from mobile (sorry for typos ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 09:30 seba.wag...@gmail.com < > > > > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay let's delay for one week then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any other objections/opinions from other people ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise I leave this VOTE open for another 24h to see > > if > > > > > there > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > other responses. Or assume - if no further responses - > > > people > > > > > are > > > > > > > > happy > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > delay by another week or so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for > > HTML5 > > > > > > > > > > > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 15:28, Maxim Solodovnik < > > > > > > solomax...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from mobile (sorry for typos ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 09:20 seba.wag...@gmail.com < > > > > > > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah so delay a few months or not? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would wait for one more week > > > > > > > > > > > > We can do another release in 1-2 months > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think just fixing the Notification API > issue > > is > > > > > worth > > > > > > > > > > blocking > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > release. It may have no impact on any > functionality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had similar situation with desktop safari > > > > > > > > > > > > Similar error in notification API (now guarded) stops > > JS > > > > > > execution > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > om > > > > > > > > > > > > ui was not loaded > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apart from a JS > > > > > > > > > > > > > console error (and basically notification popups on > > iOS > > > > > > obviously > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > working) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting > for > > > > HTML5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 15:17, Maxim Solodovnik < > > > > > > > > > solomax...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from mobile (sorry for typos ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 08:59 seba.wag...@gmail.com > < > > > > > > > > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sry I don't think I will be able to > review/update > > > and > > > > > > test on > > > > > > > > > iOS > > > > > > > > > > > > > within > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > week. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The issue with notification API is easy to fix > and > > > easy > > > > > to > > > > > > > > check > > > > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also we don't know yet if the notification API > > fix > > > > > > actually > > > > > > > > > fixes > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can share you webcam on iOS. If not, then we > will > > > > need > > > > > to > > > > > > > > keep > > > > > > > > > > > > digging. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I doubt so > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would say this is something else > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would say give it 3-4 weeks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm afraid this might be too optimictic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately this is the task I can't help with > :( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't have apple devices :( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server > Hosting > > > for > > > > > > HTML5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 13:51, Maxim Solodovnik < > > > > > > > > > > > solomax...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would fix the issue with "notification API" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And maybe spent some reasonable time on > others > > ( > > > > one > > > > > > week > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > so) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The release 6.2.0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from mobile (sorry for typos ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 04:25 > > seba.wag...@gmail.com > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This vote has passed as successful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However we discovered some issues on > > > iOS/Mobile. > > > > > The > > > > > > > > issue > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mobile Safari/iOS and Chrome/iOS (probably > > any > > > > iOS > > > > > > mobile > > > > > > > > > > > > browser) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cannot share your video stream. Audio-only > > > works. > > > > > > > > Listening > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > viewing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *other* people's audio/video works fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also to be clear, this is not > Safari/*macOS* > > > > > > (*macOS* is > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > desktop > > > > > > > > > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > laptop version of Apple's operating system, > > > it's > > > > a > > > > > > > > > different > > > > > > > > > > > > > browser > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > operating system from *iOS*, which is the > > > Mobile > > > > > > version > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > Apple's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > operating system). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari/macOS and Chrome/macOS work fine. No > > > > > problems > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > publishing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webcam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or microphone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari/iOS and Chrome/iOS are broken in > > 6.2.0, > > > > but > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > 6.1.0. > > > > > > > > > > > It > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > likely > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to be broken also in 6.0.0 and earlier > > > versions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I created some jiras with steps to > reproduce, > > > > stack > > > > > > > > trace, > > > > > > > > > > > > possible > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to fix: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2679 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2678 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2677 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fixing those issues is likely to take a few > > > > weeks, > > > > > > > > because: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - There is no clear root cause, > Webkit/iOS > > > is > > > > > > special > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are pointers of some errors, not > > clear > > > > if > > > > > it > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > fix > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > publishing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webcam or not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Testing takes a long time: Testing > > locally > > > > is > > > > > > next > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > impossible > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because you need to test on an actual > > > device, > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > > work > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > valid certificate, since you won't be > able > > > to > > > > > use > > > > > > > > > > localhost > > > > > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > developer has access to an iOS device or > > > > > > experience > > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > set > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari/iOS console stack trace using > > remote > > > > > > debugging > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - It is likely that there are additional > > > > things > > > > > > around > > > > > > > > > iOS > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not quite aware yet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *So in summary I would like to know:* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A) Should we defer releasing v6.2.0 to look > > > into > > > > > > > > > Safari/iOS + > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chrome/iOS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (likely will take a few weeks) ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B) Or release v6.2.0 now and fix further > > > > > > enhancements for > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari/iOS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chrome/iOS in v7.0.0 or a v6.3.0 ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server > > > Hosting > > > > > for > > > > > > > > HTML5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 09:07, Networking > with > > > > > Khurram > > > > > > > > Nawaz > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > khurram...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 30, 2021, at 1:41 PM, Ali > > Alhaidary > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On 9/30/21 12:05 PM, Alvaro wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 20:41:40 +1300 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> "seba.wag...@gmail.com" < > > > > > seba.wag...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> *D*ear OpenMeetings Community :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Sry for the re-vote, there was 1 Jira > > > > ticket > > > > > > > > missing > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > previous > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> and package description of 6.2.0 RC1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> So I would like to start a vote about > > > > > releasing > > > > > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenMeetings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6.2.0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> based on RC2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> *Main changes are: * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> UI improvements, stability fixes and > > adds > > > > > > OpenAPI > > > > > > > > > spec > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.0.x > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > format > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> *Stability and UI:* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> * UI fixes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> * Modal PopUpFix > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> * Upgrade to Bootstrap5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> *Integration:* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> * OpenAPI Spec in swagger format see > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://openmeetings.apache.org/swagger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> * Improved Integration examples for > > Node > > > > and > > > > > > PHP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Some other fixes and improvements, 17 > > > > issues > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > > addressed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Readme: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/6.2.0/rc2/README.md > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Changelog: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/6.2.0/rc2/CHANGELOG.md > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> List of fixed issues: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/OPENMEETINGS/versions/12349964 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Release artifacts: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/6.2.0/rc2/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Tag: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/releases/tag/6.2.0-RC2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> PGP release keys (signed using > > 93A30395): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > https://www.apache.org/dist/openmeetings/KEYS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Vote will be open for 72 hours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> [ ] +1 approve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> [ ] +0 no opinion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> My vote is +1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Director 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