+1 for this.  We've run into issues with this a lot.  For instance, say you 
have a user who should not be able to view patients, but should have access to 
a report of aggregate patient data that calls getPatients() behind the scenes 
to perform the necessary calculations.  If you take away the "view patient" 
privilege from the user, they'll get a stack trace when they attempt to execute 
the report.

This issue has been prevalent enough for us that we basically are unable to use 
privileges and roles for access control ...

Mark


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 2:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OPENMRS-DEV] Roles and Privileges Sprint

If i can weigh in on a discussion of roles and privileges briefly, I've found 
(and maybe things are improved in versions greater than 1.6.x) that we've run 
into trouble when a privilege is used both at the api and web layer.  This 
happens when we want to hide something in the UI that is wrapped in a 
<privilege/> tag, but then when we remove that privilege for a user, it turns 
out that the same privilege was wrapped around a couple of API methods, causing 
unexpected and hard-to-track-down UI problems across all of openmrs.

If there's a dedicated pass at roles+privileges, has there been any thought to 
separating api privileges from ui privileges?  I kind of feel like this is 
low-hanging fruit.  This wouldn't even need re-architecting, maybe just 
privilege naming conventions?

Or is the general sense that this type of problem has disappeared in newer 
versions?

d
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Burke Mamlin 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
(bringing this conversation about preparing for the Roles & Privileges sprint 
onto the dev list)

Reviewing the notes<http://notes.openmrs.org/2012-roadmap> on Roles & 
Permissions section from Jembi & PIH, it looks like there are some fundamental 
improvements requested:

 *   Ship OpenMRS with pre-defined roles
 *   Better documentation on managing roles (avoiding pitfalls)
 *   More informative handling of privilege exceptions (make it easier to 
understand where/which privileges are missing)
 *   Data-level permissions (restricting access to specific data based on 
privileges)
We've had prior conversations about improving roles/privileges:

 *   Avoiding the common pitfall of conflating organizational roles (job title) 
with application roles (authorization within OpenMRS); they may align early on 
in simple systems, but exceptions are common over time or as a a system grows.
 *   Creating privilege groups vs. programmatically defined roles - e.g., a web 
page wants to limit access to those who have a set of privileges.
 *   Introducing location-based privileges
There seem to be some potential short-term wins that could be done in the 
sprint:

 *   Improve our documentation to better introduce people to roles & privileges 
and cover the common pitfalls.
 *   Improve privilege error messages in core and/or create a module that makes 
it easier to troubleshoot privilege errors (e.g., log all privilege checks 
during an operation and present the unique list of privileges and/or roles that 
would cover the operation, allowing someone to step through a workflow as 
superuser and then see the list of privileges required to complete the 
workflow).
 *   Come up with some basic application roles that can be pre-defined within 
OpenMRS (ship with the application)
 *   Design (and, if possible, implement) an approach for privilege groups or 
system roles (i.e., uneditable sets of privileges that applications can program 
against)
Data-level privileges (limiting access to data based on privileges) would be a 
terrific addition, but I'm afraid it will take more design that we can muster 
between now & the beginning of this sprint.  Maybe we could come up with some 
small but useful first attempts at solving this problem (e.g., a module 
requiring permissions to access certain observations ... or a module that 
limits access to specific patients based on permissions).

Cheers,

-Burke

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Burke Mamlin 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Looking back at notes from AMPATH, the only reference to anything close to 
roles & privileges I found was the desire for the Data Entry Statistics Module 
to have a basic view privilege that allows a data assistant to see only his/her 
own statistics.

-Burke

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Ben Wolfe 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dawn found this link for me:
http://notes.openmrs.org/2012-roadmap

Is has the (mostly raw) notes from the calls we had with Jembi/PIH/AMPATH.

Daniel, can you tease out the topics from that and the other text below in the 
next 4 hours?

Ben

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