Michael,

Great work. Design is very iterative. Keep pushing!

Using the design explorations is a great way to stimulate a conversation which 
can help us better understand the requirements. Perhaps we could harvest the 
criteria for success in the thread and capture in the wiki  

Then we can make the design review process less subjective by having people 
review design explorations relative to stated goals. 

Also, the mailing list is tough place to review designs, can you post the 
design explorations to the AOO UX wiki?  

Regards,
Kevin


On Dec 23, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Michael Acevedo <vea1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think I've come up with something that is simplistic on the eye but
> beautiful an lively.
> 
> Still working on it but stay tuned.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Michael Acevedo <vea1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> RGB,
>> 
>> I see the ring as something different. The blue to me represents the open
>> blue sky, and the ring around it as a frame to an opening of an open world.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 8:16 AM, RGB ES <rgb.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 2012/12/22 janI <j...@apache.org>
>>> 
>>>> I am no designer, but I have tried to make a suggestion to better
>>> explain
>>>> what I mean.
>>>> 
>>>> The current proposals all have squares / circles etc. and apart from the
>>>> original similarity with windows8 that has a special signal value.
>>>> 
>>>> A surface (square/circle etc) especially with a border, signal:
>>>>  - limitation or positive a product that fullfills a single purpose
>>>>  - closeness or positive a product the specialize in one function
>>>> 
>>>> AOO is in my mind much more, we are open at levels where normal products
>>>> can only dream to go:
>>>> - AOO is used in nearly every corner of the earth.
>>>> - AOO is open for translation to no matter how small a language group
>>>> - AOO is open for developers who want to hack their own specialized
>>>> versions
>>>> - AOO is open for repackaging supplying the core of a wider extented
>>>> product.
>>>> I could go on.....
>>>> 
>>>> I think it is important that our logo signals this freedom and openess
>>>> after all we are OPEN office.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> +1. The ring around the orb give the idea of boundaries, limits, and we
>>> are
>>> trying to go beyond every limit ;)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I know my design is not professional, it is NOT meant to be so please
>>> dont
>>>> judge it on that. It is simply a "thought out of the box", and
>>> hopefully it
>>>> can trigger some ideas.
>>>> 
>>>> You can see my "proposal" here:
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~jani/aoo.png
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I like the idea. No sure if it fits well on a page header,
>>> but definitely is a good idea for announcements, t-shirts and a lot of
>>> other situations where a big logo is needed.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Ricardo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Have a nice christmas, whereever you are in the world.
>>>> Jan I.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 21 December 2012 20:56, Michael Acevedo <vea1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for the links with logos Armin, I will examine them shortly...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Have a good afternoon...
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Armin Le Grand <
>>> armin.le.gr...@me.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>    Hi Michael,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> this (
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/**
>>>>>> content/images/AOO_logos/<
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/
>>>>>> )
>>>>>> might help, these are the checked-in logos. You can access it with a
>>>>>> browser. Look at the SVG directory there; I am not sure if the
>>> complete
>>>>>> gulls will be extractable; I fear they are 'cut', but maybe
>>> repaired by
>>>>>> using the other wing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Looking forward to your suggestions :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>    Armin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 21.12.2012 17:48, Michael Acevedo wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello Armin,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I was tempted to make a rounded corner marquee for the current logo
>>>> but
>>>>>>> desisted of the idea after the vereditct of the Apple v. Samsung
>>> case
>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>> they were able to sue Samsung on using rounded corners for apps on
>>>> their
>>>>>>> flavor of android. Still I find the rounded corners tempting and is
>>>>>>> actually reflected on the second logo that appeared on the last
>>> jpeg
>>>>> file
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> sent yesterday.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> All of these are good suggestions and I am now thinking of
>>> something
>>>> on
>>>>>>> updating the orb, maybe keeping the basic shape of the logo which
>>> is a
>>>>>>> circle. I am rambbling here but I might be able to come up with
>>>>> something
>>>>>>> tangible during the next few hours.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Now the only thing I would need to find is an EPS or PSD
>>>>>>> high-res version of the AOO gulls. Where can I find that?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for the suggestions.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Friday, December 21, 2012, Armin Le Grand wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>      Hi Michael,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> thanks for investigating here. While I like the original orb and
>>> the
>>>>>>>> colored rects seem to lead to windows trademark stuff, what about:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - only slightly changing the AOO logo
>>>>>>>> - replacing the orb with a shape also very popular today
>>>>>>>> - keeping the color, keeping the seagulls
>>>>>>>> ...but as shape, take the now famous 'app' form - a rounded
>>> rectangle
>>>>>>>> instead of the orb, using exactly the dimensions of app logos, and
>>>> the
>>>>>>>> color blending of app logos (they use some 'bow' on the middle,
>>>> making
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> upper half slightly lighter than the lower one).
>>>>>>>> Just as on iOS devices. Maybe looking nice ;-) Will look modern
>>> :-)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> HTH!
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>     Armin
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 20.12.2012 02:33, Michael Acevedo wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Greetings to the AOO Team!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back
>>> in
>>>>>>>>> touch
>>>>>>>>> with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on
>>>>>>>>> a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the
>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>> Incubator.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally
>>> submit
>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> logo
>>>>>>>>> proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
>>>>>>>>> Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice
>>>>> Google+
>>>>>>>>> community but I went back to the drawing board and created a
>>> second
>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>> of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache
>>> OpenOffice
>>>>>>>>> orb,
>>>>>>>>> but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored
>>>>> squares
>>>>>>>>> that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer,
>>> Calc,
>>>>>>>>> Impress,
>>>>>>>>> and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Without further introductions, below I present my official
>>>> submission
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project
>>> that
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> be used for our webpage and some other materials.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://lh3.googleusercontent.
>>> ****com/-lETVSrwcgJc/**UNJpH6G1sxI/**
>>>>>>>>> AAAAAAAAABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/****AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%****
>>>>>>>>> 2520Small%2520copy.jpg<https:/**/lh3.googleusercontent.com/-**
>>>>>>>>> lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/**AAAAAAAAABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/**
>>>>>>>>> AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%**2520Small%2520copy.jpg<
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/AAAAAAAAABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but
>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the
>>>>> splash
>>>>>>>>> screen that appears at the launch of the application.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://lh4.googleusercontent.
>>> ****com/-uy8gU24uBZw/**UNJpH8UiKiI/**
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> AAAAAAAAABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/****AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.****png<
>>>>>>>>> https://lh4.**
>>> googleusercontent.com/-**uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/**
>>>>>>>>> AAAAAAAAABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/**AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.**png<
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/AAAAAAAAABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Michael
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Best,
>> Michael
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best,
> Michael

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