-----Original Message-----
From: Oliver-Rainer Wittmann [mailto:orwittm...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 00:32
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; us...@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: [improvement idea] "in-place" editing of Input Fields in Writer

Hi,

On 15.02.2013 00:44, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> That's odd.  I created a <form:text-input> field and it showed me an entry
> window right in the document where I put it.  I could then simply type
into
> the box that was part of my document.  That is, in fact, what I expected.
>

Hm...
I do not know <form:text-input> - I did not find such an element in ODF 1.2.
Did you mean <form:text> or <form:formatted-text>?

> The description of <text:text-input> in ODF 1.2 is for a situation where
> users are prompted to make an entry.

ODF 1.2 says "A text input field is used in a user interface to prompt a 
user to input text." But, it is not said, where the input has to take place.

>
> It sounds like you want to implement the text entry function of
> <text:text-input> the same as for <form:text-input> (but without the form
> features?).
>

Looking from your perspective I somehow agree.

I am currently just listening to certain customers having concerns 
regarding our current UI experience.


Best regards, Oliver.

>
>   - Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Oliver-Rainer Wittmann [mailto:orwittm...@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 01:50
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; us...@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [improvement idea] "in-place" editing of Input Fields in
Writer
>
> Hi Dennis,
>
> On 06.02.2013 19:35, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
>> For "real" input fields, (that is, form:text elements), direct entry
> works.
>>
>
> I am not sure what you mean by '"real" input fields'.
> I am talking about the fields which are inserted into a text document in
> AOO Writer by Menu Insert - Fields - Other - Functions - Input field.
> These Input Fields are represented in ODF by the <text:text-input>.
> For these Input Fields we have no "in-place" editing in AOO Writer - as
> I have described.
>
>> I assume that the case being discussed is for conventional field values
> that
>> someone wants to edit.  (Like a page number or a date field in a footer.)
>> In those cases, I suppose direct entry might be useful.  But there is
>> probably something needed to avoid accidental type-overs and to also warn
>> that other actions might later over-write the change.  Allowing for that,
>> allowing type-over seems like a reasonable improvement.
>>
>
> No, I am not talking about these kind of fields.
>
> Best regards, Oliver.
>
>
> P.S.: Sorry for the long silence, again. I had got another viral flue
> which knocked me out the last days.
>
>>    - Dennis
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Oliver-Rainer Wittmann [mailto:orwittm...@googlemail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 08:23
>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; us...@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: [improvement idea] "in-place" editing of Input Fields in Writer
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> recently I got notice about our (from my point of view) very
>> user-unfriendly way for editing Input Fields in Writer.
>> Currently, you can not place the cursor into an Input Field which in
>> general is shown with a grey background when Menu View - Field Shading
>> is on. If you click on the Input Field, a modal dialog pops up. In this
>> dialog you can edit the Input Field's content. On confirmation of the
>> dialog the Input Field's content is changed in the text document. To
>> edit the next Input Field you need to click on it. There is also a
>> special key shortcut - namely Shift-Ctrl-F9. This key shortcut opens the
>> Input Field content editing dialog for the first field. This time the
>> dialog has a Next button by which you can confirm your change and switch
>> directly to the next Input Field. A Previous button is not available. By
>> Murphys law the dialog hides most of the time the Input Field in the
>> text document.
>>
>> I have got the opinion that such an editing experience is bad,
>> especially, if the document is a form which makes use of a lot of Input
>> Fields to be filled by the user.
>>
>> [ ... ]
>>
>

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