I built an epm package and can send it to you if you like or whatever.
I have a spec as well. Just email me in private.

Fred

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
<arie...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 03:36:19PM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> On 3/28/13 2:09 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
>> > Hi Kay,
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 09:27:30AM -0800, Kay Schenk wrote:
>> >>> No. The spec are generated at build time and removed once each
>> >>> package each built, so there is no way to get the spec from the
>> >>> build (besides, those spec are generated at runtime and are
>> >>> dependent on configure switches).
>> >>
>> >> On this matter -- identification of spec files for Linux
>> >> packages. I have looked in vain for about 2 weeks on this as
>> >> well. I found the specs for the desktop integrations but this is
>> >> after the fact -- not the actual specs for most of the install.
>> >
>> > Hacking EPM allowed me to keep them after the package is built:
>> > http://people.apache.org/~arielch/specs.tar.gz (this is only for
>> > RPMs, didn't look at the DEB stuff yet).
>> >
>> > The spec files are rather simple, nothing you won't get by querying
>> > rpm passing it a rpm package.
>> >
>> > Linux installation is broken:
>> > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121968 so any help
>> > would be appreciated.
>>
>> a good question but my knowledge about linux package manager is limited.
>>
>> We have a new major version and a new name. I hope we can agree that
>> we want both, especially the new name (the version is straight forward).
>
> What I've learned from the previous versions is that we need the version
> out of the package name, otherwise openoffice4.0 is a different package
> than openoffice4.1, and so on, see 
> http://markmail.org/message/t76ag6tco4kpkopd
>
>
>> The question is indeed how we can solve this. Is there a way to
>> provide a package or some dependencies that removes older or other
>> packages. Something that we can provide additionally?
>>
>> Or a special openoffice.org cleanup package.
>
> Most all of these is possible. EPM has support for Provides, Requires,
> Obsoletes, Conflicts (see rpm.c in the epm source package).
>
> The build environment has partial support for this via "linuxreplaces",
> as explained in the mail above
> (main/solenv/bin/modules/installer/packagelist.pm has to be patched).
>
> The desktop-integration packages are more easy, because there is no epm
> in the middle, just spec files.
>
>
>> Who has more knowledge about rpm/debs and can provide more info?
>
> I'm familiar with RPM, but about Debian packaging don't know much
> (almost nothing).
>
> The other problem is that all Linux users here, AFAIK, are using rpm-based
> distributions (Ricardo, Andrea, Kay, me). This can be solved by
> a virtual machine for testing.
>
> Real work and testing on this has to wait for your integration of the
> 1-layer installation; so, the sooner you commit it on trunk, the better.
> Do you have an estimated date?
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina

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