On 18 April 2013 22:38, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 5:17 AM, janI <j...@apache.org> wrote: > > > On 18 April 2013 14:08, Claudio Filho <filh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > 2013/4/18 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <orwittm...@googlemail.com>: > > > > But regarding the removed Slot FN_PROPERTY_WRAP_DLG perform a clean > > > build of > > > > module sw: > > > > - cd sw > > > > - make clean > > > > - build > > > > > > Oliver, sorry by my newbie ask, but... we don't use more dmake? > > > > > > If i understood correctly, "build" is a perl script that calls all > > > modules, building in order of dependence, entering in each one, > > > calling Dmake to compile and delivering all files where need. > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > I saw some "makefile" files and many more "makefile.mk", where i think > > > that one is for Make and other is to Dmake. I see it in wiki too, for > > > build parts. > > > > > again correct. > > > > Problem is that some of the modules have been moved away from dmake to > > "gbuild", so right now it is a mix (and not a very smart one). > > > > Jan -- > > This last comment "not a very smart one" is interesting. Do you care to > elaborate? > I have to watch more carefully what I write, someone is actually reading it :-)
I am deep in the building system at the moment with my l10n work, and what we have now in trunk is approx 2/3 orignal dmake (that btw also seem to have at least 2 generations) and 1/3 gbuild, this combination does a good job of confusing anyone who tries to understand the system. Just to make things worse, the gbuild part is split in as many files as possible. So I should have written "dont try to understand it, just accept it", actually someone else in here said something similar to me a couple of month ago. > > I saw all this mixture too in my build experience, and well...couldn't > figure out why. It seems historically dmake was used to speed things along, > but, well...I'm not sure how/why it's being used now exactly. > Actually the wiki/gbuild have a pretty good description. The people who started gbuild did a real good job of analyzing the dmake build and an even better job of documenting their findings. I am right now (slowly) in the progress of writing a document, with demands to a solid, easy to understand build system, based on my experience from a system about 4-5 times bigger than AOO. > > And, yes, I saw the gbuild branch was basically inactive and tried to tract > down some info on that, but couldn't find much discussion about it. > > We do indeed need to devote discussion time to our build process after > 4.0. I would hope we could at least make things simpler for folks wanting > to partial builds of areas. > In my world, we can make it VERY simple...but even though gbuild is pretty new, it uses the same philosofy as dmake, so it does not really change things. I have a couple of ideas, admitted a bit radical, but they would allow us to use standard make. My intention is to take the discussion, when I have something to present, instead of starting the discussion with a piece of blank paper. Another thing we need to discuss is packaging, would it not be ideal if people could just make writer, when working on that. I would like to see a download page, where the user select which parts of AOO he/she wants to download. I hope you like to appetizer :-) rgds Jan I. > > > > > > > > > > > In long term, we will migrate to Make or continue with this hibrid(?) > > > model? > > > > > Yes, at the moment we have a branch called "gbuild" with very little > > activity. You can find a lot of description on wiki about gbuild. > > > > There are also ongoing work, to use standard make and a much simpler > > structure (no perl build), but this is not something you will see until > > after the 4.0 (and problaly 4.1) release. Once a complete is ready it > will > > be published and hopefully discussed on this list. > > > > rgds > > jan I. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Claudio > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > MzK > > "There's no upside in screwing with things you can't explain." > -- Captain Roy Montgomery, "Castle" >
