On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Jörg Schmidt <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de> >> wrote: >> > >> >> Hello *, >> >> >> >> >> >> > From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com] >> >> >> >> > So...this thread does not meet "lazy consensus" but are we ready to >> >> > implement this addition, without further changes, anyway? >> >> > I'll be happy to >> >> > take care of this either later today or tomorrow if we are. >> >> >> >> Can you please summarize what the solution should look like? >> >> >> >> The thread is long and I have somewhat lost track as "point # 4" should >> be >> >> changed. >> >> Should he ever be changed or what says: >> >> >> >> > ... Can be eased a bit as it is clear enough did the >> >> > Items are with and for our project, respectively. product. >> >> >> >> >> >> In particular, it would be important for me to know whether I can change >> >> my website (http://www.jm-schmidt.de/inhalt.html) or must. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Greetings, >> >> Jörg >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> > My take on this discussion so far (and I am certainly NOT the definitive >> > judge on this): >> > >> > * there is the listing on the consultants page itself: >> > http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html >> > >> >> I wrote that page, so it might not be too presumptuous if I say what I >> meant when I wrote it ;-) >> >> The guideline is that the 3rd party pages must "respect ASF >> Trademarks". This is vague, but intentionally so. I think we'll all >> be more accurate judges of what is wrong when we see it than we are >> predictors of all things that could possibly be wrong. So the >> discretion is given to the PMC to take this on a case-by-case basis. >> We should be looking at each submission and their linked websites as a >> whole. >> >> The kinds of abuses I had in mind were mainly pages that implied that >> the services were endorsed or affiliated with the ASF. This is much >> more than technicalities of whether or not a (TM) symbol is used. For >> example, a page that calls itself "Apache OpenOffice (TM) Consulting >> Group" would *not* be OK. We don't want our trademarks used as >> adjectives, since that suggests an affiliation. >> >> I also had in mind that we might need to correct names where they are >> misstated, e.g., "Apache Open Office", "Apache Openoffice", >> "OpenOffice.org", etc. >> >> Regards, >> >> -Rob >> > > OK -- I think we should go ahead with this. Unfortunately, testing with my > private web area on my box, my server is balking at the ".xsl" page that > goes with this...so... >
The command line should look something like: xsltproc -o consultants.html --stringparam locale en to-html.xsl consultants.xml You can switch locales by setting different values via stringparam parameter. Other XSLT engines should work, but the command line would be different. > Rob, since you have always taken care of this in the past, I would be fine > and dandy with you committing this change -- wearing your Apache hat > instead of your IBM one of course. ;) > Sure, I can do it next week when I am at my desk. Regards, -Rob > So sorry about this -- I guess it's time for more of us to give this area a > bit more attention. > > >> >> > concerning the actual content we are discussing. This does not have a >> (TM) >> > after Apache OpenOffice. I thought this was the original cause of >> objection. >> > >> > And, we can see from the listings on the consultants page that we did not >> > enforce a (TM) after Apache OpenOffice on the consultants page. >> > >> > * there are the actual websites of the consultants, like yours, and this >> > submitted one up for consideration. >> > >> > It seems there is more concern to enforce a (TM) symbol after Apache >> > OpenOffice for these third party websites. However, this is not >> something >> > required by Apache. >> > >> > See: >> > >> > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#attribution >> > >> > The important factor is referencing OpenOffice as "Apache OpenOffice", >> and >> > not the use the of the (TM) after the name. >> > >> > The website, http://www.jm-schmidt.de/inhalt.html, seems to have all >> bases >> > covered near as I can tell -- correct naming and use of (TM). >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > MzK >> > >> > “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, >> > Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” >> > -- Dr. Seuss, The Lorax >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > MzK > > “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, > Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” > -- Dr. Seuss, The Lorax --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
