The task of AOO is not the formulation of their own death message, but the further development of the project, *even* in difficult times.
There was the proposal to publish a new release in November (during ApacheCon), that is imho a right step. Jörg > -----Original Message----- > From: Jan Høydahl [mailto:jan....@cominvent.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 10:00 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement > Involve? (long) > > A well written Press Release from the AOO PMC could be a > timely move now? > It could be published on the Apache blog as well as sent to > various editors. > The PR should be short, to the point and suitable for > copy/paste into news articles. > It should paint the broader picture, the state of the > project, the current push for > more developers etc. It could also explain ASF's focus on > healthy communities, > as an explanation for the [DISCUSS] thread, and the fact that > an Apache project > not longer able to produce releases *may* end up being retired. > > Could we get writing help from Apache public relations staff? > > -- > Jan Høydahl, search solution architect > Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com > > > 6. sep. 2016 kl. 20.13 skrev Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com>: > > > > Not sure how this will come across... I am certain I will not > > be fully understood about this, anyway, this question deserves an > > answer. > > > > What has been obvious, from following the numerous threads > in various > > places, as well as contributing to the 2 main ones, is just how much > > "damage" Rob Weir has either done or has been attributed to > have done. > > I guess the best way to state it is that he was a very "polarizing" > > person... > > > > Now a lot of the ill-will (and even worse, the hate) > directed towards > > AOO is not due to anything we personally did, but is simply > redirected > > venom, mostly due to how LO felt abused and used by Oracle and that > > somehow we were complicit in it (this fallacy, of course, > was maintained > > by people who had a not-so-hidden-agenda to create and reinforce the > > division between AOO and LO). There was really very, very > little rational > > cause for TDF/LO hating Apache and AOO so much... or, at > least, developers > > on that side being so antagonist towards Apache (I am > ignoring, for the > > present, those extreme copyleft proponents who have issue > w/ permissive > > licensing for anything). What I'm basically saying is that we did > > nothing really to deserve the hate... > > > > ... except for maybe some of the "over zealous" statements by Rob. > > > > What is kinda clear is that there is still a lot of sting there. > > > > Now I did somewhat try to "explain" how such > over-zealousness shouldn't > > be so surprising, considering what he was fighting against > (this explanation > > was in the LWN thread), but rationalization isn't excuse. > > > > No, I am not saying we focus on the past... but while we are > > here for the present and future, we shouldn't "ignore" the past > > but rather acknowledge it, and then bury it. > > > > After all, aren't we asking TDF/LO to do the same?? > > > >> On Sep 6, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Marcus <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote: > >> > >> Am 09/06/2016 05:22 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: > >>> +1 > >>> > >>> I'm here for the present and the future, not the past. > >> > >> I also don't know what a single person - which has left > the project long ago - has to do with a "what-if-or-if-not" > thinking game. > >> > >> Marcus > >> > >> > >> > >>> On 9/6/2016 8:15 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 2016-09-02 09:02 (-0400), Jorg Schmidt <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> never we forget how members of OpenOffice (for example, > Rob Weir) > >>>>> were insulted by TDF representatives. > >>>> > >>>> It's important, in all of this conversation, to keep the > interests of > >>>> the *users* first. This project is about producing > software for the > >>>> public good, not about winning some contest, or nursing our hurt > >>>> feelings. We owe it to the users to forgive and forget actual and > >>>> perceived insults, and move on with our lives. > Otherwise, what the > >>>> heck are we doing here? > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
