I have been receiving private communications agitated about whether or not the 
ASF would recommend a closed-source or commercial project as something someone 
might use as an alternative to Apache OpenOffice in the event of retirement.  
I'm asked whether or not prominent open-source alternatives would be 
recommended.

 1. It is premature to know what alternatives would be identified.  We are 
nowhere close to that.  This is my thinking out-loud.  It is not something that 
the PMC is discussion or considering.  There is no reason to work on such 
retirement details unless the need to go further arises.  For now, this 
[DISCUSS] is about identification of what would be involved and not something 
being put into action and detailed farther.

 2. Nevertheless, as I have already stated, my recommendation would be to make 
no recommendation, and especially not promote one over others using our 
automated check for updates.  Instead, there could be a retirement advisory and 
recommendation that alternatives be considered.  That could lead to a web page 
like the one we now provide where third-parties who offer support, other 
services, books, tutorials, etc., can be linked to, all without any 
endorsements.  One approach would be to open that up for other providers of 
productivity software as well.  The links would be to materials of those 
providers but there would be no recommendation.  There might be minimal 
information (platforms, ODF formats supported, other formats supported, 
localizations, extensions/templates available, but nothing deep - simple 
check-offs as offered by the providers).  This remains to be identified and 
populated and there is need to figure out details now or even agree on this 
approach.  

 3. I suspect that discussions about available software alternatives would 
arise on users@oo.a.o and particularly on the Community Forums.  That would 
happen naturally without requiring the project to take any positions or provide 
any kind of exclusivity of one provider over others.

 - Dennis

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org]
> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 09:05
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)
> 
[ ... ]
> A couple of different observations:
> 
> >    2.4 The mechanism for announcing updates to installed versions of
> OpenOffice binaries is adjusted to indicate that (a) particular versions
> are no longer supported.  (b) For the latest distribution(s), there may
> be advice to users about investigating still-supported alternatives.
> >
> 
> I was careful, there, not to indicate an automatic preference to another
> comparable software product.  Rather, I would prefer users be given a
> page that identifies alternatives for them to consider, whatever their
> license, whatever their commercial nature.  By the time that retirement
> would get to that point, I think there would be ample discussion and
> public knowledge of alternatives as well.
> 
> I support the idea of renaming any pivot toward becoming a framework.  I
> also think it would be good to allow AOO retirement, in that case, and
> have the framework effort go through incubation.  The AOO code base
> would remain to be cherry-picked and morphed, and probably undertaken in
> Git.  I also think that could be an opportunity to revitalize the ODF
> Toolkit podling effort and even meld the pivot into it.  The POI folk
> might have suggestions along those lines too.
> 
> Just thoughts.
> 
> 
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