Am 09/05/2016 12:49 AM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:


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From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de]
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2016 10:34
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Subject: Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

Am 09/04/2016 06:43 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
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[orcmid]

Forget about http://helpwanted.apache.org for the moment.  I think I know what 
is required there.

   3. I did look at putting something on the
current<http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html>   page.

Although it is right there in the link, I kept looking for it on
openoffice.org.  My error.  That explains why ooo-site does not have any
get-involved/participate page with the "Diese Seite in Deutsch" line and
the sentence " Although many are content to make a small donation to
support Apache OpenOffice and the Apache Software Foundation (we
appreciate every contribution), some users want to get more involved and
volunteer their time and expertise with the project."

Is this a hack on<http://www.openoffice.org>   to break out of the
localization model and link "I want to participate in OpenOffice" to
what we call the project site,<http://openoffice.apache.org>?

I don't understand your question. This exists since, hm, I don't know
when, maybe ever.

It also creates a special island where certain kinds of task are
recruited from the German Language community, with a separate dev-de@
list.  That separation puzzles me.

This is not a special thing. It's just a translation of the English
"get_involved" webpage.

I'm sorry but I still don't know what you really want to do.
[orcmid]

Let me restate my question.

3a.  I 
found<https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/site/trunk/content/get-involved.mdtext>
  once I realized I was looking in the wrong place.  I get that the page was created 
in June 2011 by robweir and was last updated in 2012 and then again in 2015 when the 
link to a standalone German page was added.

3b. The adjacent German page was created on my birthday in January, 2015, by 
joesch.

3c. My first question is why is not<http://www.openoffice.org/contibuting>, the 
material at
<https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/contributing/index.html>
  used?  If that is obsolete, should we not deleted that folder from the current SVN 
trunk?

3d. My second question is, why is not<http://www.openoffice.org/participate>, 
the material at
<https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/xx/participate/index.mdtext>
  used.  That page was created in August 2013 (also by robweir) and has been part of 
fixes made as recently as 2014.  This xx area is perfect for localization usage, and 
would allow others to create localized versions, it seems to me.
   Again, if this folder is not actually used on the site, should it not be 
deleted from the current SVN trunk?
   My preference would be for the xx to be used so that the opportunity for 
localizations in other languages, not just German, could be handled in what 
appears to be the standard way.

I don't know. I think it was simply not used. If there was a decision then it is years ago. But you are contributor as long as me for this project. So, you could know it also - or even not. ;-)

I know we had decided that we use the w.oo.o domain for the software and just a little for the project. With oo.a.o it was the opposite. Over the years this limitation got a bit more fuzzy and the both webpages can be one of this fuzziness.

In order to anticipate your next question:

Yes, we can change it. I would also go for the "xx/participate/index.mdtext" webpage as it can be localized and integrated into the localized webpages. Then the user can get approached in their own language which is - of course - more effective than to speak in English only.

Marcus


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