Just on the off-chance that it's an issue w/ the actual build and not
the source, I am rebuilding 4.1.4-RC5 on macOS.

> On Oct 16, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> 
> FWIW, the build machine did not change between RC4 and RC5.
> 
> Would it make sense to do a rebuild and provide some rebuilt binaries
> to test?
> 
>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 3:41 PM, Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> wrote:
>> 
>> As a test, would it be possible for a Mac developer to rebuild with the 
>> source code for RC5 but the process and libraries from RC4, and/or the other 
>> way round? That will tell us whether the problem is a source code change or 
>> a build process change.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/16/2017 11:33 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Jim,
>>>> 
>>>> I am on macOS Sierra and do not see the issues in RC4.
>>>> 
>>>> With RC4 -
>>> Sorry a typo - with RC5 I see:
>>>> 
>>>> (1) I get the little general error dialog.
>>>> (2) I don’t see any terminal output after starting from Terminal.
>>>> (3) While the error is up the lock file .~lock.<filename># has been 
>>>> created with a length of 129
>>>> 
>>>> David Fisher,davewave,Daves-MacBook-Pro.local,16.10.2017 
>>>> 10:35,file:///Users/davewave/Library/Application%20Support/OpenOffice/4 
>>>> <file:///Users/davewave/Library/Application%20Support/OpenOffice/4>;
>>>> 
>>>> (4) I also get the error if I start like so:
>>>> 
>>>> /Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice -view ODF-Test.odt
>>>> 
>>>> The window is open but the background is grey when the error is displayed.
>>>> 
>>>> There is nothing obvious in a diff between RC4 and RC5 on the Mac. There 
>>>> are differences for versions and a large number of the dylib, zip and jars 
>>>> do differ.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 5:01 AM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com 
>>>>> <mailto:j...@jagunet.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Assuming AOO is installed in /Applications:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   /Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice
>>>>> 
>>>>> should do it.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie 
>>>>>> <mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 17:45:20 -0600
>>>>>> Larry Gusaas <larry.gus...@gmail.com <mailto:larry.gus...@gmail.com>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2017-10-15, 3:38 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 15:27:15 -0600
>>>>>>>> Larry Gusaas <larry.gus...@gmail.com <mailto:larry.gus...@gmail.com>> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2017-10-15, 1:01 PM Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Can you run openoffice4 from a terminal and report the messages?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Rory
>>>>>>>>>   I don't know terminal very well and do not know how to do that. I 
>>>>>>>>> can follow instruction
>>>>>>>>>   for using terminal if you have the time to give them to me.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I can't answer with any certainty for Mac, but my understanding, based 
>>>>>>>> on something I paid little attention to (no need), is that the current 
>>>>>>>> Mac operating system is a form of linux.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> macOS is derived from Unix. Many, not all commands are similar to Linux
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Open it and type "openoffice4" (no quotes).  OO should then open and 
>>>>>>>> run and give some possibly helpful diagnostics about what it is not 
>>>>>>>> finding, or what has happened.  These will be helpful to developers 
>>>>>>>> debugging.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Doesn't work. Needs more specific  command. I will investigate later 
>>>>>>> and try to get more
>>>>>>> information. Problem occurs on both my Macs so isn't specific to macOS 
>>>>>>> High Sierra, which i
>>>>>>> upgraded this Mac to recently.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I cannot help further - no experience on Macs.  Perhaps some Mac-using 
>>>>>> list member can assist.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Rory
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Some info on Terminal for a Mac is at
>>>>>>>> http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac-software/how-use-terminal-on-mac-3608274/
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> <http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac-software/how-use-terminal-on-mac-3608274/>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> _________________________________
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Larry I. Gusaas
>>>>>>> Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
>>>>>>> Website: http://larry-gusaas.com <http://larry-gusaas.com/>
>>>>>>> "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind 
>>>>>>> theirs." - Edgard Varese
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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