Hi -

I agree and wrote the same on a different thread the other day.

Regards,
Dave

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:28 AM, Pedro Lino <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Raphael, all
> 
>> I believe the 4.1.4 shows us, that we have to do a better job in QA. A
>> minor release should never go to a rc5. I believe we all (and I pointing
>> my finger to myself) underestimated the regression risk at the 4.1.4.
> 
> +1
> 
>> So, to do a better job in the 4.2.0 I propose the following changes.
>> 
>> - Define test areas, where tester should keep an extra eye on it. (based
>> on the changes)
>> - Doing Developer Snapshots again in a 2 Week frequency (or so)
>> - Switch the AOO Profile for the snapshots to AOO-Dev
>> - mobilize the willing testers to keep a critical eye on this builds
>> - maybe also run the automated tests for Apache OpenOffice.
> 
> As a user/tester/part-timeQA I agree to all points.
> 
> But, please include Language packs in Developer Snapshots. Running a build 
> with an un-matching language pack causes very serious usability problems 
> (this is IMO the only advantage of including all languages in a single 
> installer).
> 
> Creating a blank AOO-Dev profile is a two edged sword: you get a clean start 
> (and avoid trashing the user's work profile) but it isn't a realistic usage 
> (and therefore testing will not find those day to day problems that resulted 
> in the need to go to RC5)
> Maybe a middle term would be to create a separate Dev profile that is a copy 
> of the user's profile (including all extensions)?
> 
>> The idea is to make the bug cycle shorter. Improvements should be tested
>> right after the implementation and not short before the release. A fresh
>> bug is easier to fix as a old one.
> 
> That is the ideal situation. But requires more communication (the QA mailing 
> list is unused for months) and especially more man power (on all platforms!). 
> The only way to get more users is to add needed/missing features and get 
> visibility...
> 
> Regards,
> Pedro
> 
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