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> On Oct 31, 2017, at 11:10 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de 
>> <mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de>> wrote:
>> 
>> Am 31.10.2017 um 18:52 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>> On Oct 31, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org 
>>>> <mailto:p...@acm.org>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I do not know if this is the right choice, but we should include doing 
>>>> both in our thinking. Rebuild 4.1.4 for Mac only, test, and upload as soon 
>>>> as possible. Meanwhile, create, test, and vote on 4.1.5, to pick up the 
>>>> upgrade service.
>>> I agree this what we need to think about. With the new 4.1.4 route we 
>>> should make sure that we can tell the difference between the bad original 
>>> and the repaired build. Is the date sufficient or would build number be 
>>> better? I really don’t like the idea of people being confused about what 
>>> they need to do to fix issues. Right now the message is to downgrade to 
>>> 4.1.3.
>> 
>> My $ 0.02:
>> The date would be sufficient.
>> A new build number means a new build and I don't like the idea to
>> confuse 95% of our users (Windows and Linux) with a "new" version, where
>> not a single line of code was changed.
>> Rebuild the mac version and make an announcement/press release to let
>> the people know about it.
> 
> Jim is mentioning a different id for the build from the one that drives the 
> upgrade:
> 
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/genUpdateFeed/ProductInfos.txt?view=markup
>  
> <http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/genUpdateFeed/ProductInfos.txt?view=markup>
> 
> 4.1.4 OpenOffice_4 9788 https://www.openoffice.org/download 
> <https://www.openoffice.org/download> en-US ast bg ca ca-XR ca-XV cs da de el 
> en-GB es eu fi fr gd gl he hi hu it ja km ko lt nb nl pl pt pt-BR ru sk sl sr 
> sv ta th tr vi zh-CN zh-TW
> 
> 
> 9788 is different from 414m5 or 414m6.
> 
> Jim - I think that 414

I think that changing to 414m6 would be helpful.

Regards,
Dave

> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> I would like to know what Andrea and Matthias think since they have been 
>>> working with the upgrade system.
>> 
>> macOS update notification (4.1.3 -> 4.1.4) is on hold until this issue
>> is fixed.
>> But people can always download directly from our download page, maybe we
>> should put a notice there?
>> 
>> Regards, Matthias
>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>>> On 10/31/2017 9:30 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>>> There have been over 1,000,000 downloads of 4.1.4.  How many were of the 
>>>>> bad Mac version?
>>>>> If we replace then how would those people know to upgrade?
>>>>> This issue makes me think we need to have this be a new version so that 
>>>>> we can setup the upgrade service correctly.
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>> On Oct 31, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:j...@jagunet.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Question: Assuming we have "correction" builds available,
>>>>>> what do we do? Simply replace the online version with
>>>>>> these?
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