Openness can be a real problem. I have mainly done security fixes that had to stay on the private lists until released and disclosed.
Patricia > On Feb 10, 2018, at 06:20, Peter Kovacs <pe...@apache.org> wrote: > > >> On 09.02.2018 23:08, Marcus wrote: >>> Am 08.02.2018 um 00:32 schrieb Andrea Pescetti: >>> Peter Kovacs wrote: >>>> I would like to propose that we apply Agile development methods as much as >>>> we can. >> it depends what you mean with agile. >> >> IMHO forget Scrum as we are not the community to get a commitment for this. > Why? What does our community do not like about scrum? > We do not like the Values of scrum? > Focus > Openess > Respect > Commitment > Courage > > Or maybe we do not like the pillars? > Transparency, Inspect and adapt? > ;) > > Agreed, I think we can not use SCRUM in the same way Companies do, too. But I > think we can use the Idea of scrum to work together and to simplify our work. > What would you use to make our work simple? > Why do you think Ordering our Bugs in a List and add details to them will not > bring us forward? >> >> Kanban would be nice. > YAY! > I take this as a success!! :-D > One step forward. Thousands more to go. > So where you would establish the board? - Use trello? Confluence? (Nooooo.... > ;) ) > Jira has a Backlog and a Kanban board integrated which I am told are very > easy to use (Drag & drop I hope...) >> >> At the end it's a bit problematic for us with the attributes of volunteers, >> their unpredictable working time (time to work on OpenOffice tasks) and the >> number of volunteers. >> >> However, we should try to keep it simple as Product Backlop, Product Owner, >> Tasks, Sub-Tasks, Jira, Confluence etc. would be much too much complexity >> for us when doing/using all of them. > Maybe I have learned a total different scrum then you did? - Agile does not > mean to use everything like a fixed ruleset. To me SCRUM is a template to > start with It just tells us what prooved to be working well. But How and what > we can use from the framework, is up to us. > > Again. Only Product Backlog, Product Owner, and a Kanban board are on the > table as to be used. And I do only want the Product owner so we have some > steward for the list. I am totaly fine with a Release Manager looking into it. > I have not explained to maximize Value and Output, since I do not believe we > do need to maximize Value and Output, since we are Open Source Volunteering > Community and not OpenSource Commercial Product. Small but important > difference not to forget. (If we get OpenSource Comercial part, we have to > make sure they can spend their energy on maximizing Value. ;) ) > > You agree? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
