Should we create an Oo Lite edition that is small in size and lightweighted as 
discussed in the messages ? This is actually how WPS resurrected on the Chinese 
market. I think Oo Lite could also challenge Microsoft in Europe as well. BTW, 
a Windows edition of Oo Lite would also be a great threat to Microsoft.

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From: Aivaras Stepukonis <astepuko...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 4, 2021 6:34 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org <dev@openoffice.apache.org>
Subject: Re: OpenOffice needs better UI

I took a look at the screenshots and liked the Lotus icon set: very
similar to OO default, with subtly improved clarity.

Regards,

Aivaras

2021-09-04 12:05, Matthias Seidel rašė:
> Hi,
>
> Am 02.09.21 um 18:12 schrieb Guy Waterval:
>> Hello,
>>
>> @Matthias Seidel
>> Here are some screenshots of IBM Lotus Symphony
>> https://ibm-lotus-symphony.informer.com/screenshot/
>> They had also reviewed some toolbars i.e. a single one to manage forms,
>> asw..
> Thanks!
>
> I really like some of the details...
>
> Small changes can enhance productivity while not disturbing the users.
>
> Regards,
>
>     Matthias
>
>> Regards
>> G. Waterval
>>
>> Le jeu. 2 sept. 2021 à 16:01, Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de>
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Am 02.09.21 um 07:52 schrieb Guy Waterval:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> The UI of IBM Lotus Symphony could perhaps be a source of inspiration.
>>> Not
>>>> too far from the actual AOO UI, but with simplified menus and toolbars.
>>> Can you point me to some screenshot that show what you are thinking of?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>     Matthias
>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> G. Waterval
>>>>
>>>> Le mar. 31 août 2021 à 13:25, Matthias Seidel <
>>> matthias.sei...@hamburg.de>
>>>> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I do see the need for a modern icon set to be used in the now so popular
>>>>> "dark mode" and for the upcoming Windows 11. This has already been
>>>>> discussed, but since we are all volunteers someone has to do the work in
>>>>> the end.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you give examples of what you would like to change?
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe we can integrate some of them, but a major overhaul of the UI is
>>>>> very unlikely to happen. We need volunteers (and more important:
>>>>> capacity) to work on the project.
>>>>>
>>>>> Talk is cheap, but we need to "walk the talk".
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>     Matthias
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 31.08.21 um 11:26 schrieb Hao Wang:
>>>>>> I sent this message because I have had decade-long experiences with
>>>>> OpenOffice, WPS, Microsoft Office, Mac OS's own office suite and Latex.
>>> I
>>>>> think OpenOffice needs to improve its UI if it wants to compete with its
>>>>> competitors. In China, it's outrun by WPS and in US it's outrun by
>>>>> Microsoft. Even with a less-advanced technical core, a better UI design
>>> can
>>>>> lead to much higher popularity.
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: Jörg Schmidt <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 4:18 AM
>>>>>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org <dev@openoffice.apache.org>
>>>>>> Subject: RE: OpenOffice needs better UI
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Hao Wang [mailto:hao...@live.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 9:47 AM
>>>>>>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>> Subject: OpenOffice needs better UI
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear OpenOffice devs,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OpenOffice needs better UI that gives users a sense of
>>>>>>> light-weightedness and modernity. Currently the UI is too heavy.
>>>>>> What is meant by this? Is it about so-called "ribbons" or is the
>>>>> question to be
>>>>>> understood more comprehensively?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ask because: I personally don't like ribbons (which is no argument)
>>>>> and I can't
>>>>>> see that ribbons improve the operating efficiency.
>>>>>> On the other hand, it would be interesting to hear suggestions if they
>>>>> mediate
>>>>>> something other than "ribbons".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> greetings,
>>>>>> Jörg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> btw.:
>>>>>> What has become of this?
>>>>>>
>>> https://www.computer-blog.net/software/open-office-neue-bedienoberflache/
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