Hi Kami,
sorry for the late response.
KAMI wrote:
Ciao!
Jürgen Schmidt írta:
Hi Kami,
KAMI wrote:
Dear Jürgen!
Jürgen Schmidt írta:
Hi Kami,
why did you create an own installation set
I have created my own installation set because:
- it is funny ;o)
great to here
- it makes OpenOffice.org more attractive compared to other
(Commercial) suites. Other suites has more complete clipart, temlate,
font colletion in the installer... (In case of OpenOffice.org Premium
~2400 clipart, ~80 impress background, ~60 temlpates, ~90 fonts, 40
fontwork gallery element (already integrated), Bitstream vera
replaced by Deja Vu (integration on the way)... I think
OpenOffice.org Premium extras looks more shiny than original...
- all-in-one solution makes the life easier (You do not have to
download templates, fonts, clipart, fontwork gallery, documentation,
OOo related materials, UNO components (LaTeX filter)) separetly, the
install it.You get all thing via one click... Ideal way for beginners...
- I enjoyed the work with your heplful collegues Ingo and Kai.
perfect, it seems that you like the work with the community and you
obviously has done a good job with all the new stuff for your
"premium" OO.org.
I feel same :o) But I know We need to do more. The current objective of
this project to be the part of main OpenOffice.org, so everybody can use
our extras. I did and will do everything to make it happen as soon as
possible. Localization support, apply of OpenOffice.org desing rules on
OOo Premium... I know we need contributors, whom help out us with
particular language translation, templates, documentums....
and why didn't you provide your template collection to the OO.org
project directly.
As far as I know the English and German templates are available via
local language teams' homepage. Hungarian templates are available at
hu.openoffice.org.
OpenOffice Premium source (patcset for vanilla OOo) is available here:
ftp://ftp.fsf.hu/OpenOffice.org_hu/devel/Source_mod/
ok, i don't know the details exactly how the template stuff is
organized. But i think that there should be one place for all languages.
I do agree...
One place with a set of templates, impress backgrounds ... where the
community has agreed that they should become the default in an
official OpenOffice.org distro.
I still agree...
No differentiation between OpenOffice.org and a OpenOffice.org Premium
or others.
I do not want to differ OpenOffic.org and OpenOffice.org Premium. I
wopuld very happy if we decide to integrate OpenOffice.org Premium into
OpenOffice.org project...
I did steps to this direction...
After we created Premium, we compiled binaries for linux and windows...
Then shown it to the community. The Hungarian users really liked this
idea (ide of integrated Premium versions), so we created international
version - firstly en-US - and I hope we will have De version by the
2.0.3's time.
Make it easy for our end users -->> one OpenOffice.org -->> no further
decision which distro of OpenOffice would be the best for me.
Ok there are always reasons for having commercial products based on
OpenOffice.org. I mean especially support and service issues for
companies which are often bind to a commercial product and which from
my point of view is ok. But i personally as private user of
OpenOffice.org wouldn't really choose between different OpenOffice.org
versions.
So we didn't hide our work. What do you think where should we promote
our templates?
That would have the benefit that the translation mechanisms on
OO.org can be used
Translatig is not affecting templates just the additional
installation parts, galleries, etc. Templates are created one by one
for every language...
mmh, i think often the idea and structure of a template is important
I agree - I think the origanl template stucture is good for start...
and if you have some kind of master template in English
I mainly work on Hungarian templates, of course one day I might start to
create also English templates. But for this I have top learn English at
first.
for example other user can translate the template to other languages
as well but reusing the original idea, structure, macros, ...
Yes! More complex documents must be more reusable. OOo community might
start a document localization project to make more templates/macro based
documents, utilities available for more and more languages.
and all OO.org versions would benefit of a better or bigger template
collection and better or more impress schemes.
Of course everybody benefit from out collection because everybody can
use the extras (as you saw they are available for public), but
Premium - from my viewpoint - is one (or two) step forward because it
integrates these extras into OpenOffice.org perfectly...
fine, and you can make the seconds step (installing OO.org Premium)
obsolete by integrating it in the offical OpenOffice.org build
I have a good news for you! I already did taht step :o) I made it
OpenOffice.org compatible as your engineers requested... I divided into
four parts to make integration easier as Pavel requested. I filled
issues about integration here:
62405 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium
integration - Gallery (1/4)
62406 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium
integration - Fonts (2/4)
62407 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium
integration - Templates (3/4)
62408 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium
integration - Samples (4/4)
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62405
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62406
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62407
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62408
I think I can not do more for integration, can you?
Here is a snippet about OpenOffice.org Premium:
OpenOffice.org Premium = OpenOffice.org + Extras
OpenOffice.org Premium is a free and open source enhancement of
official OpenOffice.org. The Hungarian Native Language Team has
modified the source of OpenOffice.org and bundled lot of extras with
it. Here are just a few of the extras you get with OpenOffice.org
Premium:
* Clip Art (currently more than 2,400 objects)
* Templates (number varies by language)
* Samples (number varies by language)
* Documentation (if available)
* Fonts (more than 90 fonts)
OpenOffice.org Premium is based on the latest and greatest version of
OpenOffice.org -- 2.0.2.
You can download OpenOffice.org Premium 2.0.2 from here:
ftp://ftp.fsf.hu/OpenOffice.org_hu/devel/OOB680_m5_Premium
Current language versions:
Hungarian (HU), English (EN-US)
the official build supports much more
Yes, but do not forget there are few peoples behind the project...
Currently doesn't mean maximal. Of course we support as many languages
as original OpenOffice.org do, but we need someone who translate it into
his own languages and also collect and order the templates...
That the reason why it can be helpful to put it on OpenOffice directly.
Probably more people will help.
Current platforms:
Linux and Windows
the official build supports much more
Sorry mister! We have only Windows and Linux machnies. This is the sad
Hungarian reality :o( I am not a corporation, my resources are limited.
I can't spend more money for Mac (PPC and Intel), Sparc and others...
... the reason as before, use the comunity
The modified source code can be downloaded here:
ftp://ftp.fsf.hu/OpenOffice.org_hu/devel/Source_mod
(Current version is: OOo202Premium-step7.zip
<ftp://ftp.fsf.hu/OpenOffice.org_hu/devel/Source_mod/OOo202Premium-step7.zip>
)
The modified source code is available for everyone. It has been
changed to
utilize all of OpenOffice.org features, including localization. If you'd
like to help us improve OpenOffice.org Premium, here are a few of the
ways
you can get involved:
* Translators - translate the resource files to your language and
send it them back to me
* Content creators/revisors - Send me templates and openoffice.org
documentation (in OpenDocument Format) for your language. Collect as
many as you can, but please keep out the poor, low quality content...
Someone might recheck the English content of upcoming OpenOffice.org
Premium 2.0.2 - It is only a sample.
* Gallery submitters/coordinators/organisers - Send me a free
galleries or images (mainly in vector based format) good quality
SVG->WMF convertions may be interesting...
* Builders - to build OpenOffice.org Premium with other language - I
can do it, but I have only one machine and it is also for work
* Programmers - to develop a new ideas, make it better
* Voters - If you find it useful you can vote for integration:
62405 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium
integration - Gallery (1/4)
62406 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium
integration - Fonts (2/4)
62407 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium
integration - Templates (3/4)
62408 FEATUR P3 All [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNCO OpenOffice.org Premium
integration - Samples (4/4)
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62405
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62406
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62407
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62408
Thanks for sharing all this info here ...
Juergen
Not at all :o)
Can you help me in the integration?
not directly. Templates etc. are not my area but i will see what i can do.
Juergen
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